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 Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)

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PostSubject: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/9/2009, 8:37 am

Adult:




Young (same fish):




Size - 8 inches
pH - 7.0
Temp. - 75 degrees Fahrenheit
Minimum Tank Size - 55 Gallons
Origin - Guatemala, Honduras, Yucatan
Diet - Frozen and Pelleted food including bloodworms, brine shrimp, and cichlid pellets
Care Level - Intermediate
Temperament - Moderately Aggressive

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey is a variant of the common Jack Dempsey, part of the cichlid family of fish. It gets is name from the brilliant coloration that it presents as it enters adulthood. Many have speculated as to whether this fish is a hybrid fish formed from another fish breeding or whether it comes from a naturally occurring gene that would be produced in nature. Both sides have good arguments. However, I tend to lean towards the gene for two reasons. One, because it can be reproduced by breeding an Electric Blue with an Electric Blue Gene carrier, and two, because it carries all of the same rituals and habits of the normal Jack Dempsey and because of it's color, would not be found in nature because it would stick out like a sore thumb to both the parent who would cull the different looking ones and to a predator who finds the colorful and weaker ones easier meals.

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey has a milder manner than the normal Jack Dempsey. However, don't let that fool you from thinking it will not still hold up to it's name. They still can hold their own. EBJD's, as some people abbreviate, are not easy to breed because the Blue fry are very weak and susceptible to diseases, especially early on in their life. Much care must be taken when young to ensure their survival and health. It is also difficult because in order to produce blue fry you must first cross a normal Jack Dempsey with an EBJD and then breed the fry, who are Blue Gene carriers, back with an EBJD to produce Electric Blue fry. Two EBJD's bred together will produce extremely weak fry who will die once hatched in a very short time. To ensure a stronger strain, it is suggested that you breed the first batch of Blue Gene carrier fry with an EBJD other than the parent to prevent inbreeding problems.

With all of that being said, I have found this to be one of, if not, my favorite fish to keep in the hobby because of it's brilliant colors and rarity. Please do note that if you plan on keeping one, I've found that it is best to keep your EBJD with the opposite sex normal Jack Dempsey or with another Electric Blue of the same size to keep them from hiding all the time. Mine was very shy until I introduced her to a mate. Now she roams the whole tank most of the day and is much more active. Enjoy!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/9/2009, 9:17 am

Very nice American cichlids

Good info too.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/9/2009, 9:45 pm

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/9/2009, 10:49 pm

Nice female
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/9/2009, 10:52 pm

I had no idea it was female until I vented her when I brought some potential mates home for "him". Luckily I brought one male and one female normal Jack. She is now paired up with the male and has laid eggs once already. Only problem is she got so mean she wouldn't let the male fertilize the eggs that time around! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/29/2009, 5:25 pm

How old is your? He has a good head little to no beak very nice. Here is mine I just love him he is so spunky.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   11/29/2009, 8:09 pm

I bought a nice small male much like yours but he just passed over my vacation from an unknown cause. I'm really upset at the moment. I might have to replace him soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 12:52 am

heres a pic of mine i bought two of them pretty expensive
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 2:43 am

I love these guys, I had one but my red tail cat ate it!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 2:47 am

i want one. how much are those beasts?
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 3:04 am

ricardorocks wrote:
heres a pic of mine i bought two of them pretty expensive
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yours has nice color but he has the beak face. How big is he in that pic?

mine was $20. Well worth it he was 2" when I bought him now he is 3.5".
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 3:19 am

usually expensive fish at the LFS
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 4:31 am

Nice
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 9:26 am

I've bought two for $35 a piece. Other stores I've seen sell them for $30. Problem is, you are buying them as smaller fry, maybe 2 inches, so at 35 bucks, you have to be very careful as they are susceptible to disease. Especially if you only have a 48 hour warranty!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 12:39 pm

snowflake311 wrote:
ricardorocks wrote:
heres a pic of mine i bought two of them pretty expensive
[img][/img]

yours has nice color but he has the beak face. How big is he in that pic?

mine was $20. Well worth it he was 2" when I bought him now he is 3.5".
i paid 35 when he was 2 inches now he is 4 inches in the old pic he was 3 inches hes colors are bad @$$ just keep getting better idk if its a male or female yet
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 2:21 pm

yea if you can breed these - its easy money in your pocket
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 4:04 pm

Read the section about breeding I posted in the library entry. They are tough because you have to breed a MALE EBJD with a normal strain twice (two seperate pairs). Then you have to breed the baby females from one batch with the opposite male EBJD to get viable EBJD fry (Prevents inbreeding). Once I get moved into a house I own, this will be the fish that I breed.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 5:32 pm

I may try a breeding project, nothing like a good challenge!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/4/2010, 9:19 pm

seems like a lot of work but very nice result i love mine
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/17/2010, 10:37 pm

this is an update on my electric blues they are starting to do alot of lip locking what does it mean they are like 4 inches each dont know the sex
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/18/2010, 12:07 am

means they are prob gonna do it and make more babies!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/18/2010, 12:25 am

you think so it would be nice ,you dont think they are to young and i dont know their sex too will see can any one tell by looking at them fish
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/18/2010, 12:30 am

Vent them. Pick em up and look at the asshole. The hole below it is the breeding tube. Males = V (pointy), Females = U (blunt)
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/18/2010, 12:33 am

ebjd are one of my favorite fw fish. let me know if your succesful at breeding them ricardo
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)   1/18/2010, 12:46 am

Yeah me too ricardo
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