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 Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)

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Size - 8 inches
pH - 7.0
Temp. - 75 degrees Fahrenheit
Minimum Tank Size - 55 Gallons
Origin - Guatemala, Honduras, Yucatan
Diet - Frozen and Pelleted food including bloodworms, brine shrimp, and cichlid pellets
Care Level - Intermediate
Temperament - Moderately Aggressive

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey is a variant of the common Jack Dempsey, part of the cichlid family of fish. It gets is name from the brilliant coloration that it presents as it enters adulthood. Many have speculated as to whether this fish is a hybrid fish formed from another fish breeding or whether it comes from a naturally occurring gene that would be produced in nature. Both sides have good arguments. However, I tend to lean towards the gene for two reasons. One, because it can be reproduced by breeding an Electric Blue with an Electric Blue Gene carrier, and two, because it carries all of the same rituals and habits of the normal Jack Dempsey and because of it's color, would not be found in nature because it would stick out like a sore thumb to both the parent who would cull the different looking ones and to a predator who finds the colorful and weaker ones easier meals.

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey has a milder manner than the normal Jack Dempsey. However, don't let that fool you from thinking it will not still hold up to it's name. They still can hold their own. EBJD's, as some people abbreviate, are not easy to breed because the Blue fry are very weak and susceptible to diseases, especially early on in their life. Much care must be taken when young to ensure their survival and health. It is also difficult because in order to produce blue fry you must first cross a normal Jack Dempsey with an EBJD and then breed the fry, who are Blue Gene carriers, back with an EBJD to produce Electric Blue fry. Two EBJD's bred together will produce extremely weak fry who will die once hatched in a very short time. To ensure a stronger strain, it is suggested that you breed the first batch of Blue Gene carrier fry with an EBJD other than the parent to prevent inbreeding problems.

With all of that being said, I have found this to be one of, if not, my favorite fish to keep in the hobby because of it's brilliant colors and rarity. Please do note that if you plan on keeping one, I've found that it is best to keep your EBJD with the opposite sex normal Jack Dempsey or with another Electric Blue of the same size to keep them from hiding all the time. Mine was very shy until I introduced her to a mate. Now she roams the whole tank most of the day and is much more active. Enjoy!
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Yeah me too ricardo
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Sorry guys and girls but they are worth $3.50 on the wholesale markrt now. The price is dropping fast. Six months ago they were $5.00.
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thanks guys i will let you know if im luck as far as fishman tell me where i paid 35 for each one of mine so let me know ill buy a bunch are they eblds cuz i know regular ones hit that price range all day thanks for the vent lesson ill check it out i just thought they were to young
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then lfs are jacking up the prices of these still.
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tim wrote:
then lfs are jacking up the prices of these still.
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my lfs sells them for 25 i think
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I'm a wholesaler. I have my mark up and then the stores. FYI blue damsels saltwater cost me 25cents. What do they cost at your local store?
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private how much do you sell ebjd for
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EBJD's for $3.50? That's crazy because every one that I've seen here is at least $25-$30. Now I know there is mark-up, but that's 1000 percent. I could understand them being worth $10-$20 dollars and being marked to $25-$35 dollars. Maybe you missed the decimal?
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CSnyder00 wrote:
EBJD's for $3.50? That's crazy because every one that I've seen here is at least $25-$30. Now I know there is mark-up, but that's 1000 percent. I could understand them being worth $10-$20 dollars and being marked to $25-$35 dollars. Maybe you missed the decimal?
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No earlier in 09 they were $15.00 my cost. Like all new fish prices fall. Do rememmber the Precox Rainbow. Dwarf neon rainbow. My cost was $125.00. Overnite they dropped to $7.50. Yuor EBJD have been around long enough for the price to fall. The Albino Birchardi was the same way. I expect the EBJD to bottom out around $2.00. Now thats my cost. Yes the mark up on live fish a lot. Sorry that you the consumer pays the price. Its always been alot. Theres airfreight losses and profit envoled.
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Yeah I know there is huge mark-up but I didn't figure on the prices dropping. Can we get them discounted from you? I want some nice young males if I can get them.
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same here ill buy like 5 from you at that price
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No I only sell to retail stores with retail locations. Sorry for the bad news.
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That is unfortunate. I need some males to try and breed them for the locals. I'll just have to keep my eyes open around here!
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that sucks really oh well so till we find some cheaper hope someone else can have luck breeding them mine are doing the dance and lip locking but i dont see any eggs i cant catch them their smart they hide under all the rocks so i havent vented them ill try again later
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Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 2 Ebjd11Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 2 Ebjd_210Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 2 Ebjd_110 this is an update on my ebjds their together all the time no babys i cant catch them because they hide under the rocks all the time i try to but no luck so idk if its male and female they are just chill with themselves and everyone else they are getting big too
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those are going to look great when the get bigger.

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thanks i hope they do their getting big quick
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guys i found a spot who has them for 10.95 price cut check them out at www.somethingsphishy.com google them and youll see the price dont miss out
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CSnyder00 wrote:
That is unfortunate. I need some males to try and breed them for the locals. I'll just have to keep my eyes open around here!
check out the last post csyder may help you out
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I saw them for $20-$25 at my local LFS and offered to buy all they had for a reduced price... I think I paid like $15 each.

They were about 2" or less and only last a few weeks.

However, I also found them online in lot prices for less...

I think I found a 50 lot at about $7 ea and a 100 lot at under $5 ea.

I wanted to get them but at the time I didn't know about this site and didn't have anyone else to take some from me.

Let me see if I can still find that deal...
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can't find them now but see them at Tha Fish Place / That Pet Place for $12.99
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I want to get a couple of EBJD's since I have some Gold Jack Dempsey's now and 1 regular JD.

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Beautiful fish...thanks for the info...

Does anyone know if the electric fades out as they mature....buddy has one about 4" and it seems to have faded a bit.

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