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NajaAkaDoa
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PostSubject: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/21/2011, 7:28 pm

no loach section :( So this is a theory section.
anyone with a theory, or a little secret, or something
they've seen that really doen't know what it means...
I figure log it here, and who know's what will 'hit' who, you know?
.......here's to science - peace JT
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/21/2011, 8:00 pm

..I'll even start it..

I hear pleco people that breed, seem to trigger with
food and water changes.. any drop in temp while doing this?
....basicly recreating a 'flood' or rainy season..

I know all you Richmond folk can relate to the James when a flood
goes through...at the boat launches the fences (at least 4ft tall) will
be covered in mud and snagged leaves....

Also, in some snakes, it's good for the 'couple' to have never met before.
So maybe two or three mature fish, when they meet they 'fight' to establish so
Im thinking, that may 'kick it off' so to speak... think boas etc..

Your guess is as good as mine. Don't hesitate to speak.. -peace JT

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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/22/2011, 3:48 am

I have had pretty good results with good food and cooler temps at wc(not loaches). I have read they like to travel up current and they find pockets in the current (behind or in front of rocks). I'm not to sure myself. I don't think there are many cases where people have been able to breed them.
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/22/2011, 3:52 am

Oh and in the index there is a section called catfish and other bottom dwellers. Loaches are included. Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/22/2011, 4:15 pm

Like flyfishing...

never thought about it like that...

I'm glad you said something... Peace JT
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/22/2011, 4:21 pm

..and yes there is a catfish section, that's where we
first talked :)... I just figured I'd try to liven the place up
with some "interaction"... thazzall... -peace JT
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 6:03 am

NajaAkaDoa wrote:
Like flyfishing...

never thought about it like that...

I'm glad you said something... Peace JT
Yep like salmon swimming up stream
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 10:16 am

i have a Friend who was able to breed clown loaches...low pH and hiding places and heavy planted tank..he used..i rem seen discus in the same tank also some large corys i have seen in stores..i guess hes a discus breeder so he gets his hands on some cool fish
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 3:20 pm

Ok hold up.. Jaiko.. you've seen it?

Can you remember things like

Adult fish size.. the number of..... how he handled the eggs,
how low a ph...temp.. cycles...basicly everything you saw?..

And, can you still make contact with this person, meaning
do you think you could get them to 'open up' on this forum
so's I could get some 'precision info'?? thanks -JT


......and again, pictures would be really, really cool :)
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 6:03 pm

yeap..the ph was low due to having discuss in there the tank was 150g he had c02 running.. i remeber seen eight to nine large adult size clowns temp was 77.. and ill try to get him on.. you may now who we is..his one of the nations bigest discuss breader..
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 8:13 pm

If you could I'd be greatful..

When you say 'adult size' what
is that in inches? And you said
they were 'groovin' in a 150g?

How was the tank set up filtration wise,
and flow etc? -Peace JT

p.s.. if you get a chance to ask
how did he handle the eggs?...
how long until they hatched?..
anything special put in the tank for them to
deposit the eggs on?.. etc..

I could keep going but basicly this is what I'm
looking for 'accounts' of... thanks again -JT

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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 8:29 pm

From. 6 to. 7 inches big suckers he. Used 2 magnum. 350 and a sump
I also remember something about he had a brick inside the. Tank. Covered. In grass. That were the. Eggs were laid
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 8:57 pm

... lol!

...The eggs were laid on the brick.....or grass?
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/23/2011, 9:31 pm

Inside grass or. Brick. I dunno I. Imagine there's grass inside. The brick. Btw whats so funny?
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/24/2011, 11:59 am

Huh? N/m....

Hey, you said he's a well known discus breeder.
I found fish pretty much by accident,
I was 'baby sitting' a little new-born Alligator Snapper,
all live plants... enter the snails...enter the suggestion
of using loaches to clean the snails... So I got some,
and the snails were cleaned in no time but these fish
aren't normal 'fish'... no guppy's, they have much more
going on behind there eyes....

So I got them out of the tank immediatly, and set them up
using left over reptile stuff, and now I have a whole 'bonded' crew.

Point being, I don't have a bead on who's who in the
fish breeding 'world'... but, if he has a site, or is a commercial
person, could you 'name drop'?... If he's a private person, and he
chooses, let him know how to reach me here, I don't mind..

Whatever the case, I'd really like some legit first hand accounts.

-Peace JT


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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/25/2011, 9:51 am

So much for trying to. Help ..I guess I'm not. Legit enough. Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/25/2011, 10:17 am

I have breed some loaches. Not in an aquarium. Milking males and females and giving females injection to produce eggs. I also have created hybrids.
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/25/2011, 9:53 pm

Sound like you may have a few more
tools/toys than me. Did you keep track
of weights, if they went off food, temp?

I know the "H" word is shunned upon, but
for 'science sake', what were the mixes?
How did they do healthwise.. I hear the
term 'hybrid vigor'.. and I hear other times
where it doesn't go so well .. Thanks for the input - JT

...easy there Jaiko, I was 'hanging on' your words,
I'd like to hear your account as well as your discus
buddies.. I'm greatful... -peace JT

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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/26/2011, 12:10 am

The usage of punctuation....! lol!

I laugh because, I thought only I could
'butcher' punctuation in my 'style'...

I like to type.... as if a cross between....
Jessie Jackson, giving... a . speach.. crossed
with Christopher Walken.... playing... a .....role...!...


Where ever this gets me...... ahhso be it... -Peace JT fishing
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/26/2011, 9:58 am

Oh. It's my android phone that's. Doing it I hate it. Lol. See!
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PostSubject: Re: Loaches breeding   Loaches breeding Icon_minitime10/26/2011, 10:48 am

jaiko1975 wrote:
Oh. It's my android phone that's. Doing it I hate it. Lol. See!
You are double spacing. When typing on most androids hitting the space button twice will put a "." In its place and start the next letter as a capital. Smart phones....... I think you can change the settings so it doesn't do that.
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