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brddthomas
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PostSubject: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 8:37 am

Could someone please tell me what kind of fish this is. The Discus(I had two discus) do not get along with these guys. Our one remaining discus needs some friends. but, I think I need to thin the heard before I had more Discus.

thanks for your input

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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 8:40 am

Looks like a Siamese algae eater or flying fox.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 9:02 am

Hard to tell from picture but if it is a chinese algae eater they are known for getting bigger and eating the slime coat discus produce. Same goes for the often miss labeled 'Siamese'. The true Siamese would likely not do it but since other similar fish are often miss labeled and sold as them it can happen.

I would honestly get rid of most algae eaters all together in a discus tank. Too many otherwise good algae eaters are known for starting to really like the slime coat and stressing the discus out. I have had luck with the bushy nose pleco but I always have some driftwood in the tank. They leave the Discus alone and stick to the wood like glue.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 9:25 am

Thanks. I will try to get better pictures. But, those buggers do not stay still long enough to get good pics. I googled flying foxes and they look like that one also.

If these are flying foxes should I still get rid of them?

I have 3 small plecos(I think) they stay on the wood and sometimes venture out to the plants.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 9:30 am

Yeah need better pics. Look kind of like a Striped Rapheal catfish. Can't see the mouth though.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 9:35 am

If they are in fact flying fox/ Chinese algae eaters I personally would not keep them in a discus tank. If you have the common plecos (that get larger) I would not have them in the tank once they put on size. If you have something like the bushy nose that only get 4 or so inches long and never really go after fish then it might not be a problem. Too many fish like the slime coat and you have watch and make sure others are not picking at them.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 10:04 am

Siamese algae eater i second that

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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 10:14 am

Would need a clear picture of the black line and tail fin or nose to determine that for sure. There are 4 different fish in the Siamese family alone then you have the much more common Chinese/flying fox. They all act a little different and some pick on fish while others could care less. No matter what the case if they are picking on the fish in the tank, namely the discus they need to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 10:56 am

These pictures are a little better. I am leaning toward flying foxes.

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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 11:15 am

Based of those pictures and the fact that the center black stripe extends through the caudal fin and also that the stripe is solid and not zig zagged I would say flying fox for sure.

here is a good site so you can compare for yourself. I have some real Siamese and their stripe is much different then that one.

http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 11:54 am


Have to see a brighter picture of the caudal. Could be the Flying Fox or the Siamese Algae eater. They both have the stripe running throught the caudal but one is wider then the other.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 11:57 am

That stripe is solid a true Siamese is a zig zag and not nearly as dark, their fins are also clear. It looks like more of a dark dorsal(black tip) fin in that picture which also would be indicative on a flying fox.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 12:49 pm

Flying Fox, no if ands or buts about it. Fish ID Please 772341
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 3:39 pm

Thanks for the help. Now, I have to figure out how to get rid of them safely.
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 4:05 pm

Time to start up another tank!
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime10/8/2011, 6:16 pm

lol.. Striking. One tank is enough. I am however going to start a 10gal QT tank for my new Discus when I finally get the flying foxs and the angel fish out.


thanks for your help !!
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PostSubject: Re: Fish ID Please   Fish ID Please Icon_minitime11/23/2011, 7:14 pm

Flying fox, 100 percent sure. they have personality so you may be okay with it in there or it might start to stress out the other fish.
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