| | Any interest?? | |
| | Author | Message |
---|
Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Any interest?? 8/27/2010, 11:31 pm | |
| Would anyone be interested in 6, 2"-3" karema frontosa?? We got them from Jojo, but need to move them so we can move our mbuna into the 75g so the 125g is freed up. Anyone??? | |
| | | TangTango Private
Posts : 19 Location : Palmer, TX Favorite Fish: : Frontosa, Gibberosa, Calvus
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/27/2010, 11:41 pm | |
| First I just want to point out that Karema is a Gibberosa not a Frontosa. I know, They will always be Fronts to me too.
Anyways, I'm always interest'd in Gibs but your a long ways from me. What are ya want'n for them? I already have some Mpimbwes from JoJo but I'd like to have some Karemas too. | |
| | | KMX Admin
Posts : 16094 Location : Mansfield, TX Favorite Fish: : African Cichlids of all kinds.
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 8:06 am | |
| Cyphotilapia covers three species that were previously covered under Frontosa. They are Frontosa, Gibberosa and C. sp. "North".
gibberosa is the new species name for the southern varients of frontosa. Much like any species from the Zambian coastline, southern tanzanian coastline, and the southern Zaire coastline. Things like zaire blue, moba, nangu, nsumbu, ikola, kipili, and mpimbwe, bismark, samazi are all identified as C.gibberosa. They were different enough than the northern varients to recently warrant a separate species name. So technically the Zaires and such are no longer frontosa. frontosa is belongs to Cyphotilapia because of the hump on the forehead and the broad vertical bands on the body (these bands are not visible in large males). Frontosa is to include the 7 stripe variety collected in kigoma and surrounding area. Other differences between Frontosa and Gibberosa are, C. frontosa, in having three scale rows between the upper and the lower lateral line (versus two rows). C. gibberosa has a greater number of scales in the longitudinal line (34-36 versus 33-34); fewer outer teeth on the upper jaw (31-52 versus 39-62); higher body (43,3-51,2 versus 38,2-46,5 %SL); longer predorsal (37,5-44,9 versus 37,1-42,7 %SL); longer dorsal fin base (57,1-64,6 %SL versus 53,8-60,9 %SL) and longer pectoral fin (36,0-47,2 versus 31,3-41,7 %SL).
C. sp. "North" would include the Burundi, Kavala and Karilani.
With all that being said. I would not put her in the wrong for calling them a Frontosa. But if you want to get techenical yes sir it's a Gib. | |
| | | khrister USA Fishbox Sponsor
Posts : 1211 Location : Allen, TX Favorite Fish: :
Cyphotilapia
Cyprichromis
Mbunas
Fancy PL*CO
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 8:16 am | |
| When that Japanese dude got bored and counted the scales along the lateral lines on the cyphos, it made reclassifying them confusing. After the reclassification, only fish with 7 stripes collected in Kigoma area are called Frontosa, So Kory is right, there are 3 species now. Gibbs, Fronts and Sp. North i.e burundi types. But for other people they are just plainly Frontosa, which at one point they all are. Now buy those juvies so Raschael can in turn pickup the Wild Caught Adults from me | |
| | | BFinley Admin
Posts : 4498 Location : Fort Worth,Tx Favorite Fish: : Frontosa and Red Tail Catfish and All Africans
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 9:19 am | |
| How much would you want for them? | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 10:01 am | |
| Geez. . . just trying to find some beautiful fish a new home. . . I can't keep up with all this "reclassification" stuff. . . so Anyone want some karema gibberosa?? ;) I honestly am not sure what to ask for them. I just really want them in a good home, but don't want to "give"' them away either. | |
| | | TangTango Private
Posts : 19 Location : Palmer, TX Favorite Fish: : Frontosa, Gibberosa, Calvus
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 10:39 am | |
| Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone with that comment. If ya read the second sentence in my post it says:
"They will always be Fronts to me too!" | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? 8/28/2010, 10:42 am | |
| It's okay. . . I was just joking around, no offense taken here. | |
| | | Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: Any interest?? | |
| |
| | | | Any interest?? | |
|
Similar topics | |
|
| Permissions in this forum: | You cannot reply to topics in this forum
| |
| |
| Who is online? | In total there are 8 users online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 8 Guests :: 1 Bot
None
Most users ever online was 885 on 4/28/2021, 6:39 am
|
Latest topics | » New To Site by Bishop 9/2/2022, 1:33 pm
» I'm BACK !!!!! by KMX 2/28/2019, 2:26 pm
» USA coming back? by lgsasquatch 1/12/2019, 9:06 pm
» -SL- Terrys Stocklist by Terry 1/9/2019, 9:36 am
» A look a my Set up! by BBurton 1/8/2019, 8:55 pm
» Send in your January POTM contest pics by ilicurtisili 1/7/2019, 1:55 am
» Salutations by BFinley 2/19/2017, 11:52 am
» Hello everyone by daenduckstreek 1/13/2017, 8:07 pm
» Hypancistrus (Colony Only) Sale - Shipping available - Allen TX by katiebear22 5/9/2015, 4:55 pm
» WTB L46 Zebra Plecos 2.5" or larger by katiebear22 5/9/2015, 4:53 pm
» algae prob please help!!! by wblueus 1/1/2015, 9:06 pm
» New to Fishbox by MitziK 12/28/2014, 9:57 pm
» Hello! by DreamFa11 12/26/2014, 3:06 pm
» -SL- proyect01 by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:52 pm
» New to this forum by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:49 pm
» Newbie by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:46 pm
» Howdy...again! by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:44 pm
» Hi Everyone by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:43 pm
» Fort Myers, FL New Member by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:40 pm
» Hello by proyect01 8/31/2014, 10:38 pm
» people in the dfw area. by koicrazy 8/8/2014, 3:12 pm
» where is the best place to get food for baby bettas? by Dr. Who 6/20/2014, 9:32 pm
» Water changes by Dr. Who 6/20/2014, 9:31 pm
» Anyone interested in - Samazi Frontosa - Mechanicsville, VA by Vikings 28 6/12/2014, 8:22 am
» Looking to buy Frontosa's by Vikings 28 6/12/2014, 8:17 am
|
|