Petrochromis Information

I was looking on the web for information on Petrochromis. I am getting some Red Eye Ikola in and was curiouse. I did not find much and what I did find was spread out so I thought I would put it all together on here....and some pics I found aswell.




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Petrochromis is a small genus of seven formally described cichlid species, and at least 7 undescribed species, all endemic to Lake Tanganyika in east Africa.


Petrochromis
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia

Phylum: Chordata

Class: Actinopterygii

Order: Perciformes

Family: Cichlidae

Subfamily: Pseudocrenilabrinae

Tribe: Tropheini

Genus: Petrochromis
Boulenger, 1898

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Petrochromis sp. "Red - Bulu Point"

by Greg Pierson (aka Greggo)

Almost 2 years ago a lone male specimen of Petrochromis sp. "Red - Bulu Point", from Lake Tanganyika, arrived uncere-moniously in a shipment from African Diving Ltd to an importer in Houston, Texas. The 7 inch fish appeared to be D.O.A. and was placed in a corner with disappointment. Later, while unpacking the rest of the shipment, someone noticed a slight movement from the fish. It was still alive! It was immediately given its own tank to recuperate in and was gradually nursed back to health over several months. In time this lone male "Red" blossomed into a stunning show specimen that has mesmerized visitors to the store. Currently, this male has grown to 10 inches and is becoming better with age. Rumor has it that the store's owner has received and refused many offers for this show fish. Some offers have reportedly exceeded $600!!!

Not long afterward, African Diving Ltd updated their website with stunning photos of this species and created an international demand for them. Surfing through page after page of theses photos left one in awe of this rare jewel from Lake Tanganyika. Soon a small number of "Reds" were exported and subsequently African Diving closed their fish collecting operation leaving no foreseeable collection activity for them in the near future.

Not much is known about this species in the wild or in the aquarium. According to an email I received from African Diving they are a deep water species that is seldom seen in the lake. Many days while they were attempting to collect this species, they did not capture a single individual. I also learned that males can reach an excess of ten inches and range in color from neon orange to red with their face covered by a black mask. In the aquarium, subordinate males can have a more subdued dress. Females are brown, have a dull orange chest and cheeks, and a dark brown mask. Juvenile fish are silver/brown with a vertically barred pattern and begin to gradually transform to an adult color pattern at 4 to 5 inches.






When I had an opportunity to purchase a colony of "Reds", I was highly reluctant. I had heard the horror stories of the Petrochromis genus and did not want to spend a large sum of money for fish that would kill each other in a matter of days. I had over 15 years of experience in keeping Tropheus and had a limited amount of success in keeping Petrochromis trewavasae. Feeling confident in a moment of abandon, I decided to purchase 6 pairs. I nervously placed them in a 6 foot long 135 gallon tank that is heavily loaded with Texas Holey Rock, and began watching for the first sign of an impending disaster.

To my surprise the aggression level was much lower than I had anticipated. In fact, the aggression level was lower than I have experienced with Tropheus. Is it the nature of "Reds" to be less aggressive or did I luckily hit upon the right stocking level? I have since added a small number of other Petrochromis species to the tank (P. ephippium and P. trewavasae) which has helped to reduce aggression even more.






Another surprise that the "Reds" had up their sleeve was their enormous appetite. These fish can eat and eat and eat. Imagine the voracious appetite of a Tropheus multiplied by ten! I feed them heavily two or three times a day with high quality flakes, spirulina pellets, and shrimp mix. Feeding the "Reds" usually requires toweling off afterwards due to the enthusiastic, splashing feeding frenzy of the group. Of course, the heavy feedings also result in a large quantity of waste produced by the fish. I use an oversized wet/dry filtration system and do bi-weekly water changes. A sand substrate helps make it easier to siphon off waste from the tank bottom.

With the heavy feedings I have been giving the group, it did not take long for females to come into breeding condition. As the egg tube of a female began to extend, the dominant male in the tank became increasingly excited and active. The male would chase away all other fish from his side of the tank, flutter in front of the ripe female, and lead her back to the spawning area. Spawning occurred in a manner similar to Tropheus with eggs that are larger than a frontosa's eggs. So far my females have not been good at holding their eggs to full term, but they are still young and should learn to be better mothers with time. The incubation period is about 4 weeks with the fry being � inch when the egg yolk is fully absorbed. The few successful broods I have had range in size from 4 to 31 fry. The fry have the same enormous appetite of the adults and soon revealed another surprise about them. They have an astonishing growth rate. By six months old they are 3 inches long! In my years of fish keeping I have not kept a fish with this growth rate.

Tank mates that are suitable for "Reds" are other Petrochromis species, some Tanganyikan Synodontis species, and plecos. However, I would not recommend Synodontis multi-punctatus as it is an egg thief. That would be quite an expensive egg to be eaten by a catfish. Due to the enormous appetite of the "Reds" I do not believe Tropheus would be a good tank mate for them. In order to satisfy the appetite of the "Reds" the Tropheus would undoubtedly over eat and develop bloat. □


Text and Photos � Greg Pierson

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The Petrochromis Myth

by Leigh Kissane

My first experience with Petrochromis was probably similar to everybody else. While looking in one of my numerous books about Lake Tanganyika, I began to focus on pictures and information about cichlids that I had never kept. My attention was caught by a picture of a male Petrochromis sp. "Giant." The shape and coloration of the cichlid in this picture was not that remarkable. It was the description that captured my attention. In the caption that described this cichlid were the following words. "This species is totally unsuitable for the aquarium." Never being one who like being told what I can or cannot do, my curiosity was piqued. That being said, I have been an aquarist long enough to know that I did not know enough to just run out and buy some. Research was needed.

Finding information on the Petrochromis genus proved difficult. Most of the literature and information on the internet always had the caveat "buyer beware." The general consensus about Petrochromis was that they are extremely aggressive, need excessively large tanks and filtration, and are capable of killing an entire tank of fish in mere hours. I cannot explain how many times I read, or was told, that Petrochromis are not suitable for the home aquarist. Some of the advice I was given were as follows: "because of its size and aggressive nature, this species is unsuitable for the home aquarium," "males will kill each other in a matter of days," "never keep more than one male in the tank," and my personal favorite "why waste your money on a tankful of fish that are just going to kill each other?" Usually when I asked the person offering the advice if they had ever kept any Petrochromis variant, the reply, all too often, was "well no, but that�s what I have heard." Not exactly first hand experience.





Petrochromis Famula "Texas Gold" Petrochromis sp. "Red Fin Longola"


Based upon the lack of quality information available, I decided to take an educated risk and prepared a 125 gallon tank to house these seemingly unkeepable cichlids. I sent out some letters of interest to various importers in an attempt to locate some variants. Based upon what I had learned, I thought that these cichlids seemed interesting enough to give them a try. Luck would have it that a fellow aquarist had some Petrochromis in his possession but could not afford the time to properly care for them. A few telephone calls later and I had 18 incredible looking Petrochromis swimming in my 125 gallon tank. My Petrochromis groups consisted of 8 Petrochromis Famula "Texas Gold", 6 Petrochromis sp. "Red Fin Longola" and 4 Petrochromis sp. "Moshi yellow." That was the beginning of my fascination with the Petrochromis genus. One that will stay with me for many years to come.

Behavior:

Keeping in mind that I had been told over and over that these were incredibly aggressive cichlids, I was prepared for the worst when they arrived. To my amazement, once in my tank they practically ignored each other. I thought this might change as they may have been stressed by the transport. In fact, the next day, aggression levels were raised in the tank as they began to set their pecking order. It appeared that the dominant male "Texas Gold" was quickly attempting to establish his hold on the tank. Over the course of the next two weeks his status changed as the dominant male Longola established himself as the tank "boss." With the three different variants in the same tank I have been surprised to note that they still, for the most part, completely ignore each other. Aggression has been fixated upon conspecifics and very limited. The males defend a small territory and spend most of their time trying to entice the females into breeding. Only when a stray fish wanders into their territory will the male "escort" them out. My tanks are decorated with large rock piles and multiple caves. This set up seems to afford places for the males to stake out territories as well as letting the females hide should the need arise. Other than that, there have been no ripped fins, eaten scales, or stressed fish. In fact, I would say that the aggression level in my Petrochromis tank is easily less than that witnessed in my Tropheus tanks.

Stocking levels seem to play an important role in diminishing aggression levels. The more, the merrier, as the saying goes, seems to work well with Petrochromis. In small groups they cluster together and are very shy. Only when mixed in with others do they settle down. That being said, they are large fish and require a lot of filtration to keep the water crystal clear. It is fairly easy to observe if your Petrochromis are comfortable as breeding begins quickly once they settle in.

Breeding:

In my tank breeding is a non stop event. This is especially true after I have performed a water change. The males continually display to the females by flaring their fins and shaking in front of them. This is followed by the male attempting to escort the females back to the territory. Once there, the males flaring and color increases dramatically as he lays himself down on his side in front of the female. The female nuzzles his fins and they begin to circle each other. This behavior has taken as long as 48 hours or a quick as 30 minutes. During the breeding, the male becomes very aggressive towards all other tank mates, constantly chasing them away from the selected breeding area. This aggression is limited to chasing and I have never witnessed jaw locking or biting during breeding. The male quickly returns to the waiting female and completes the event. The female incubates the eggs for three weeks and then is stripped. I have noticed that if the female is permitted to hold for longer than that she begins to quickly eat the fry. In a matter of days she may have eaten them all. I am not sure if this is due to immaturity or is endemic to the genus. Observation of subsequent broods should help to narrow down the problem. At three weeks of age the fry still have their egg sacs attached and do not swim well. I have tried various methods of raising them, from tumbling to just placing them in a prepared grow out tank with a crushed coral substrate. Both seem to work equally well. At 4 weeks of age, the fry are free swimming and their egg sacs are almost completely gone. Petrochromis fry grow quickly. Feeding them twice daily can produce results of one inch length within 2 months. Three inches in length is quite common within 6 months. On multiple occasions, I have been surprised to note that a female that had been stripped of her eggs the day before was, again, holding a new brood the very next day. When this has occurred the female usually eats the eggs over the next few days. Perhaps this is a way for them to regain their strength after fasting for 3 weeks while they hold. I have not witnessed this behavior in any other cichlid to date. Clearly, more observation of this behavior is needed.

General Care and Maintenance:

I keep all of my Petrochromis on a spirulina-based diet. This mimics what they would consume in the wild. I find a once per day feeding sufficient to keep them healthy. They do, however, eat quite a bit of food and will stuff themselves so much that it appears their stomachs will explode. In between feedings they continually scrape the tank clean of all algae. I leave my tank lights on 16 hours per day and they do such a good job keeping the algae controlled that I can go a month or two in between glass cleaning.

As large fish, Petrochromis are exceedingly dirty. Copious amounts of waste build up in the tank in short order. This requires me to do 25%-50% water changes weekly. This keeps the water crystal clear and stimulates breeding activity. Filter pads also clog very quickly and require constant change. A simple vacuuming of the substrate removes most of the solid waste the fish have deposited.

Conclusion:

All in all my experience with Petrochromis has been a very rewarding one. The color and personality that they posses, more than make up for any perceived shortcomings. Their aggressive nature is, in my opinion, greatly exaggerated and these fish have garnered an undeserved negative reputation in the hobby. It is my sincere hope that this article will convince others to keep these magnificent fish in their aquariums. While I would not recommend Petrochromis for the beginning aquarist, as the price they command is substantial, they are fairly easy to care for and offer a great sense of satisfaction when they flourish in your aquarium. Provided the correct food, filtration, and tank size they should offer any aquarist years of enjoyment.

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wow. what an amazing fish!!!

Beautiful fish...

I have a friend named Klaus Stienhaus.
He does speak on Tropheus and knows a lot about them.

I would be glad to ask him about these if you would like.
I think if anyone knows he would.
Let me know..

They are basically juiced up tropheus. They are just as if not more aggressive, and just as if not more sensitive to water quality and bloat. If these are wild specimens, I would be ready to treat for bloat. Not that they will have it, just that if they do they will all be dead in a matter of days.

Good luck, if you keep tropheus then you will be fine.

Jon, I have never had a minutes trouble from my F1 Kiriza's.
I just can't see that with water changes and good feeding habits.
Them being that hard to care for,

I feed Omega One Veggie Flakes, and Spirulina Flakes with no problems at all.
Weekly water changes and sameday rituals.

They do not deal with change well..

I fast all my fish on Sundays.

They aren't hard to care for as long as you are prepared and stay constant. The problem is if they come already stressed. Once settled in they are fine.

musiccitycichlids wrote:

They are basically juiced up tropheus. They are just as if not more aggressive, and just as if not more sensitive to water quality and bloat. If these are wild specimens, I would be ready to treat for bloat. Not that they will have it, just that if they do they will all be dead in a matter of days.

Good luck, if you keep tropheus then you will be fine.

musiccitycichlids wrote:

They aren't hard to care for as long as you are prepared and stay constant. The problem is if they come already stressed. Once settled in they are fine.

Have you ever kept any Petros?

KMX,

I contacted a friend of mine.

Klaus Stienhaus. He is well versed in Tropheus, and speaks
on them regularly. Klaus is a very inteligent fish man.

I do believe he has kept Petros.

He said there is very little information other than on forums.

However they are no different than keeping any other ones of this type.
I hope this helps.

BTW, Klaus has been keeping fish over 40 years, and is very deep into Tanganyikan fish.
I try to surround myself with people like that. ie: Vman
I think 43 years of experience. LOL

Yes, I had a F1 group(6) 3-6" known as sp. texas red I had them for about 3 months and then a guy bought them off me and I haven't had any since. I found their behavior similar to tropheus. When a dominant male sets up shop, he is very aggressive.

I didn't lose any, but I have heard horror stories similar to that of tropheus. What I mean is that they bully one until it gets stressed and bloats and then the whole colony then bloats. Since they are an expensive fish, I would take some bloat precautions.

I am no expert on these fish, but a colony in a large tank is a sight to behold and I will get more in the future.

Read the articele above. It is from someone that keeps plenty of Petros.




"Finding information on the Petrochromis genus proved difficult. Most of the literature and information on the internet always had the caveat "buyer beware." The general consensus about Petrochromis was that they are extremely aggressive, need excessively large tanks and filtration, and are capable of killing an entire tank of fish in mere hours. I cannot explain how many times I read, or was told, that Petrochromis are not suitable for the home aquarist. Some of the advice I was given were as follows: "because of its size and aggressive nature, this species is unsuitable for the home aquarium," "males will kill each other in a matter of days," "never keep more than one male in the tank," and my personal favorite "why waste your money on a tankful of fish that are just going to kill each other?" Usually when I asked the person offering the advice if they had ever kept any Petrochromis variant, the reply, all too often, was "well no, but that�s what I have heard." Not exactly first hand experience"


"Conclusion:

All in all my experience with Petrochromis has been a very rewarding one. The color and personality that they posses, more than make up for any perceived shortcomings. Their aggressive nature is, in my opinion, greatly exaggerated and these fish have garnered an undeserved negative reputation in the hobby. It is my sincere hope that this article will convince others to keep these magnificent fish in their aquariums. While I would not recommend Petrochromis for the beginning aquarist, as the price they command is substantial, they are fairly easy to care for and offer a great sense of satisfaction when they flourish in your aquarium. Provided the correct food, filtration, and tank size they should offer any aquarist years of enjoyment."






I am going to do some Petros. Going to start my research and search.

i have kept several different variants of petrochromis,and the are by far the best fish to keep with tons of personality!mine will literally eat right out of my hand.i love these fish!!!

russ where are you located?

If I had a large enough tank I would try these. thanks KMS for the info. Keep us informed on your progress.

ohio

i have quite a few famula bangwe fry.
i also have quite a few tropheus musanga fry.
both are f1

FishVixen wrote:

If I had a large enough tank I would try these. thanks KMS for the info. Keep us informed on your progress.

you could possibly get by with a 5 foot tank with the smaller less aggressive petros like famula and trews.

russ wrote:

ohio

Same Russ from cyphos and trophs?

yes thats me....if you would like to know the truth with trophs and cyphos shoot m a pm.

Small world! fancy meeting you here. I rarely visit trophs as I do not have them anymore but visit cyphos once in a while.

small world in deed!

still have any petros?

Great info KMX, very nice fish and colors....

KMX wrote:

still have any petros?

i have quite a few f1 famula fry and i have wc orange kasumbe.

Let me know when they are for sale. What size tank do you have them in and what tank mates? Thanks for the info

wc adult famula
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wc orange kasumbe
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