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 Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!

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PostSubject: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime1/3/2010, 6:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

I went home for 3 days and came back today to find my Red Jewels had laid eggs again which is not surprising. What was surprising was that my male Albino Bristlenose Pleco was guarding the breeding log that I put in there for them. I looked inside and I found eggs! I didn't know whether they were old enough to breed yet but I guess that question is answered! I don't know how old the eggs are, but they are still eggs.

What is the gestation period for Pleco eggs?

Anyone have any good articles or tips on how to raise Pleco fry?
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NICE
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looking good.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/24/2010, 9:36 am

They look great! Looks like you got some regular colors out of the spawns?
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/24/2010, 11:57 am

Awesome success.. cant wait till mine start having fry!
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/24/2010, 8:05 pm

Thanks! And yes, I did get some normals from the breeding. I think that's cool, though. Genetics are never an exact science....
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/25/2010, 9:43 am

yeah i know my longfin albinos have some regular fined babies and some longfin.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/25/2010, 11:55 am

Yeah. You at least know that they carry the gene, though which you can tell to whoever buys them.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/25/2010, 12:23 pm

Yes genes are funny things. I'm still waiting for a regular color cory fry to pop up from my albino breeders.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/25/2010, 2:19 pm

I would guess you would get one soon. It shouldn't take more than a batch or two.
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i think shes on like the 164,327,854th batch!!! lol
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Oh. Well that doesn't make sense because I've gotten normal strains in all of my albino hatches. Maybe they aren't true albinos???
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let me know what you guys decide on the genetics....
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/26/2010, 6:10 am

Well within about a week 50% don't make it, between unhatched eggs and early deaths.... Albino-ism is a gene disorder so it makes sense that the success rate is lower than colored fish.
I haven't gotten any albinos out of my bronzes either, but I do get at least one very dark brown one per batch.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime3/26/2010, 6:21 am

As far as short fins carrying the long fin trait, I've read that long fins is a dominant trait, so the short fins are recessive for it meaning they don't carry it. I believe I read that in TFH. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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Its the other way around, short fin and reg color are dominant genes, long fin and albino are recessive.
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Albino is recessive. Everywhere I've read says Longfin is dominant. Here's a discussion on it:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=127702

It looks like the longfin trait might actually be more then one gene at play though. Saw another thread about it on aquabid's forum:
http://www.aquaboards.com/viewtopic.php?id=2193

So it might be good to be careful in saying a shortfin carries longfin genes and just advertise that the shortfin has longfin parents. From what I've read about it anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime4/21/2010, 8:02 pm

It's true that the parents can both be long finned and the baby can be short finned and NOT be a carrier. It's about a 25% chance, but it is possible. It works like this:

L = long finned gene (dominant)
s = short finned gene (recessive)

___L ____ s

L__LL____Ls


s__Ls____ss

The ss in the equation would be the short finned plecos WITHOUT the Long finned gene OR VISA VERSA. It would work roughly the same way with Short finned genes being dominant as well, you would just switch the letters.
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PostSubject: Re: Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn!   Albino Bristlenose Pleco Spawn! - Page 1 Icon_minitime4/21/2010, 8:09 pm

Anyway...
It works...
REALLY WELL!!!

More Fry!

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What do you think? They plastered the inside of the breeding cave with eggs this time and they all survived!
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wow thats alot
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Yeah for one hatch it is!
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Very nice new batch of ABN fry... CongratZ.

yes
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Ok so when are you going to put them up for sale for us? I want some. LOL
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It takes a while to grow them out.
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affraid Thats a whole lot of plecos!
Great job! Looks like you are getting the hang of it! I can only hope my pleco spawns go so well!
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Once mine got going, they haven't let up. Once a week I have eggs. That's 3 females supplying the eggs and one male guarding them. lol
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Great Job! Congratulations!
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