What kind of snails do you have?

First topic message reminder :

I am in search for snails. I like them for some odd reason. I'm just curiouse on who has what. If you can please post a pic or a name....or both. Thanks!

armthehomeless wrote:

Fern wrote:

I may be getting a few assassin snails soon, anyone have much info on them... like how quick they multiply?

Assassin snails take a while to get started . . . but what I've noticed in the year or so that i've had them is that they breed quicker when there is a large supply of snails for them to consume. I now ship them across the US. I have them in four of my tanks and have played several experiments on them in which I was able to dedude the following results:

- Anetoma helena prefer a temperature in themid to upper 70's for breeding although they can handle a wide variety of temperatures
- An abundance of MTS or ramshorn snails helps with breeding
- If snails are not available, feed something high in protein - like shrimp pellets
- If there is a lack of food, breeding stops.

Great info! I will need this for my assasin. Keep me posted on more info

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why.

Just because different creatures live in the same environment doesn't mean that there exists some sort of symbiotic or mutualistic relationship between them. Is there some sort of information that leads you to this assumption . . .or is this just a guess based upon that fact that Sulawesi shrimp and Sulawesi snails come from the same general location?


The water parameters measured using API test kit near a region where the Tylo. snails are collected are as follows:

pH 8
GH 60 ppm
KH 80 ppm
TDS 90-135 ppm

Brichardi fry are the ones in question mainly. I have seen the adult brichardi pick up and move MTS from their breeding pits......... Pretty much cichlid fry in general I guess, and also do they harm plants?

[quote="armthehomeless"]

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why.

Just because different creatures live in the same environment doesn't mean that there exists some sort of symbiotic or mutualistic relationship between them. Is there some sort of information that leads you to this assumption . . .or is this just a guess based upon that fact that Sulawesi shrimp and Sulawesi snails come from the same general location?


I said nothing about a symbiotic or mutualistic relationship,where did you read that? I simply stated that being from the same area , they like the same water parameters ,so that could be why those snails in that tank are reproducing while your others arent .

So dose anyone have any snails for sale that I already don't have?

I have
Red Eruopean Ramshorn
Giant Ramshorn
Nerite
Assasian
MTS
Trapdoor
and some kind of pond snail that I can't ID. I think I got him from Terry.

svaha wrote:

I said nothing about a symbiotic or mutualistic relationship,where did you read that? I simply stated that being from the same area , they like the same water parameters ,so that could be why those snails in that tank are reproducing while your others arent .

Perhaps you are missing my point... I'm not trying to be rude or anything. But saying that a sulawesi snail is not breeding because I don't have sulawesi shrimp breeding in the same tank is tantamount to saying that I can't breed discus because I don't have green terrors in the same tank (they come from the same water too).

What I was asking was if they have some sort of relationship that I was not aware of... such as a symbiotic, mutualistic, etc.

All of my tanks have the same parameters. Housotn tap water with a carbon bottle.

Now let me ask you this: Do you even have any first hand experience with these snails?

Kory, I have some purple ones I got from Nancy....some are clear but the colored ones are a really pretty color....will try to post a pic

"They are at a higher temperature (80F) and the water has a higher oxygen content. Does anyone know if this could be whay they are breeding?"

Temperature is a water parameter also and so is oxygen levels.

Yes I have White spotted tylos,not many but they do have a few young and their temp is 82, ph 7.8, dkh 6. I keep them with some Malawas since they like the same water parameters ,could be why they are both reproducing.

You keep acting like I said the shrimp had to be there,never said anything of the sort ,I dont need anyone putting words in my mouth,I am quiet capable of putting my foot there on my own.

TanyaQ2000 wrote:

Kory, I have some purple ones I got from Nancy....some are clear but the colored ones are a really pretty color....will try to post a pic

What are they Purple mystery? and I dont know who Nancy is not a user here.

svaha wrote:

Temperature is a water parameter also and so is oxygen levels.

True; I meant to say water chemistry pamameters (i.e. those generally measured with an API test kit)

svaha wrote:

Yes I have White spotted tylos,not many but they do have a few young and their temp is 82, ph 7.8, dkh 6.

This is helpful information.

svaha wrote:

I keep them with some Malawas since they like the same water parameters ,could be why they are both reproducing.

I understand why you keep them together. It is the same reason that I keep mine together. It is also the same reason that I keep my cyps and xenos together. But I don't understand why you think that is impacts the reproduction rate. That is why I was asking about some sort of relationship that I was not aware of.

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why.

Having one thing imply the other is what led me to believe that you think there is some sort of relationship
between the two. Did I misread/misinterpret this? This is what led me to start talking about symbiosis, mutualism, etc. . .

svaha wrote:

You keep acting like I said the shrimp had to be there,never said anything of the sort, I dont need anyone putting words in my mouth,I am quiet capable of putting my foot there on my own.

I'm not acting like the shrimp had to be there; I'm acting acting as if you think there is a benefit to them being there. I'm not trying to put words anywhere . . . simply trying to understand what you meant by a statement that you made.

KMX wrote:

TanyaQ2000 wrote:

Kory, I have some purple ones I got from Nancy....some are clear but the colored ones are a really pretty color....will try to post a pic

What are they Purple mystery? and I dont know who Nancy is not a user here.

I'll ask Nancy, probably purple mystery...I'm pretty sure you know Nancy, aka Haiven. on the dfw forum as I understand that you purchased many of her cichlids when she changed over to angels....she's in Northwest Irving....not on the USA site...she only does angels now and they're beautiful

armthehomeless wrote:

svaha wrote:

Temperature is a water parameter also and so is oxygen levels.

True; I meant to say water chemistry pamameters (i.e. those generally measured with an API test kit)

svaha wrote:

Yes I have White spotted tylos,not many but they do have a few young and their temp is 82, ph 7.8, dkh 6.

This is helpful information.

svaha wrote:

I keep them with some Malawas since they like the same water parameters ,could be why they are both reproducing.

I understand why you keep them together. It is the same reason that I keep mine together. It is also the same reason that I keep my cyps and xenos together. But I don't understand why you think that is impacts the reproduction rate. That is why I was asking about some sort of relationship that I was not aware of.

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why.

Having one thing imply the other is what led me to believe that you think there is some sort of relationship
between the two. Did I misread/misinterpret this? This is what led me to start talking about symbiosis, mutualism, etc. . .

svaha wrote:

You keep acting like I said the shrimp had to be there,never said anything of the sort, I dont need anyone putting words in my mouth,I am quiet capable of putting my foot there on my own.

I'm not acting like the shrimp had to be there; I'm acting acting as if you think there is a benefit to them being there. I'm not trying to put words anywhere . . . simply trying to understand what you meant by a statement that you made.

My only statement was that they like the same water params ,nothing about the shrimp having anything to do with them reproducing.

TanyaQ2000 wrote:

KMX wrote:

TanyaQ2000 wrote:

Kory, I have some purple ones I got from Nancy....some are clear but the colored ones are a really pretty color....will try to post a pic

What are they Purple mystery? and I dont know who Nancy is not a user here.

I'll ask Nancy, probably purple mystery...I'm pretty sure you know Nancy, aka Haiven. on the dfw forum as I understand that you purchased many of her cichlids when she changed over to angels....she's in Northwest Irving....not on the USA site...she only does angels now and they're beautiful

Cool let me know what they are.

Havien rings a bell. I think I only got 1 or 2 of the Cichlids. She had some nice Angels for sure.

i would like to hav a few more snails my dojo keeps on eating my babies so i need some that r bigger than babies. i only hav the snails that wer on my plants wen i bought them, so i dont kno exactly wat they r. theyr brown and hav smooth shells.

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why [they are breeding].

svaha wrote:

My only statement was that they like the same water params ,nothing about the shrimp having anything to do with them reproducing.

This is where I am confused . . . but I'll leave it alone since it has nothing to do with KMX's desire to find different types of snails.

Pilli, I will toss some snails in your box as well, what would you like? Pond snails, Malaysian trumpet snails and/or ramshorns?

i doesnt matter to me i need more snails since im sort of running out of them i only hav 4 left my dojo and my eel ate them lik candy, so i need some more so my plants can be cleaned

Pillie if you want some rams horn snails ,I can bring you some to the meeting on the 26th or anyone that wants some,it is time to clear a few out of my 70g, could probably bring 20-30 easy .

that would be great, i do need some my plants r starting to look algea than plants lol, i hav maybe 3 fry surviving, so ill bring those my dojo had a midnight snack and now im down to that many.

pillierox1 wrote:

i would like to hav a few more snails my dojo keeps on eating my babies so i need some that r bigger than babies. i only hav the snails that wer on my plants wen i bought them, so i dont kno exactly wat they r. theyr brown and hav smooth shells.

You prolly have the MTS.

armthehomeless wrote:

svaha wrote:

They and the cardinals come from the same area and like the same water parameters so yes I would say thats most likely why [they are breeding].

svaha wrote:

My only statement was that they like the same water params ,nothing about the shrimp having anything to do with them reproducing.

This is where I am confused . . . but I'll leave it alone since it has nothing to do with KMX's desire to find different types of snails.

svaha wrote:

Pillie if you want some rams horn snails ,I can bring you some to the meeting on the 26th or anyone that wants some,it is time to clear a few out of my 70g, could probably bring 20-30 easy .

What kind of Ramshorn?

Just plain brown rams horn snails,nothing fancy.

So they are diffrent from the Red Eruopens?

Red Ramshorn

Pilli, you most likely have the standard pond snails.
I know with my brown ramshorns a few red pop up from time to time.

ya i wouldnt be suprised they lay eggs like crazy but wen the eggs hatch my dojo is waiting

Pillie do you have a pic of your snails?