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+12istrober the.c.word strikingthematch elfwolfe whisper wblueus jessecichlidguy wildbeanerz FishWithTeethLover strawman1985 Elrollo James0816 16 posters | |
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James0816 Captain
Posts : 1194 Location : Spotsylvania, VA Favorite Fish: : Stingrays
Otocinclus Catfish
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| Subject: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 12:54 pm | |
| This project was the result of two seperate things: 1) I wanted to create a wall for the Suesswassertang to attach to. 2) I also wanted to hide the heater. Part 1 would be simple. I could just get some plastic grid material and affix the Suesswassertang to it. Simple. But then I got to thinking...How could I maximize the wall and hide the heater at the same time. Solution: Create a ledge. This enables me to plant something on the top of the ledge which will help hide the heater as well. So here's how I did it. Step I: Making the Ledge........... Materials: 1 sheet plastic canvas ..........................tape ..........................wood blocks ........... Tools: ..... Heat gun ..........................Scissors ..........................Case Knife ........... 1) Cut the canvas to the desired lengths. This part may be a bit of trial and error to get to the size you want. ........... 2) Using the blocks of wood for support, tape two pieces of the canvas to the wood forming a seam at the edge of the wood. ........... *** CAUTION *** Use caution during this next step as you will be using a heat gun and it will get extremely hot. ........... 3) Using the heat gun, slowly melt the two edges of the canvas to make a joined seam. The plastic will turn clear when hot enough making it look like water. This will be very hot so be carefull. ........... * NOTE I * Keep the heat gun moving. Do not keep it in one spot. This will help to avoid over heating and ruining the project. ........... * NOTE II * During the heating process, you may find that one (or both) sides will buckle out. Taking a flat edge, you can slowly run it up and down the canvas and place it back into form. ........... * NOTE III * In doing this, I found it actually better melting from bottom to top instead of side to side as depicted in the earlier pic. Basically melting it as shown in the picture above. ........... 4) Repeat the last step for the remaining seams. It can be a bit difficult at time to get the last two seams together so use patience. It will all come together. ........... 5) When finished, you should have a product that looks similar to this: This was my first attempt. I had the dimensions wrong and it actually did not work as 90 degree angle. I made another one and as well, didn't get the dimensions correct. I'm not a major in geometry. ;o) When you get the dimensions right, it will fall perfectly into place. I placed the finished product in my algae tank to test it (notice the chunks of algae in the sand I had scraped off the walls for the pics). Here's the finished product: From the top: From the front: The middle will be filled with the SMS substrate and planted with Echinodorus Angustifolia. This will replacing my makeshift wall which simply two pieces of the canvas held to the tank using suction cups. This allow the SMS to stay in place instead of leaking through the sides from the current one. To attach the Suesswassertang, use fishing line and thread it through the holes of the grid. The line will go over the Suesswassertang. You can gently pull it into place and tie the line. Once the Suesswassertang takes hold, you can remove the line. To plant the Echinodorus Angustifolia, lower the plant into the middle of the ledge to the depth you will be planting. Take a toothpick and run it through the grid in the middle the of the EA and out the other end. This will hold the plant in place while you fill with substrate. I will be using 5-6 plants to place on top. First we have to attach the Suesswassertang. Take two long lines of fishing wire and attach them to the ledge. Instead of using a knot, I just made a loop around one of the back pieces of the grid. This enables you to tighten it if needed. Take a few smaller pieces of line and tie them to the long ones. Place the Suesswassertang on the grid. When you have it situated, take the fishing line and roll it on top and then thread through the grid on the opposite side. Loop the ends again instead of tying. This is how it will look: If you look close enough, you will see both the horizontal and vertical lines. Next, place the ledge into the tank where you want it. Now we have to plant the ledge. This can get a little tricky as you'll need to use both hands. You will need some toothpicks for this part. I used the plastic ones instead of the wood to be safe. Take your plant and lower into the ledge deep enough so the roots will be covered. Thread a toothpick through one side of the ledge, carefully through the plant and then out the other side. This will hold the plant in place. Repeat the last step for remaining plants. I wound up using (4) E. Angustifolia instead of the planned (5). When the plants are all secure, pour in your substrate. I used a small measuring cup and scooped it from the tank and poured. Do this until the substrate is level with the top of the ledge. You'll have to do some smoothing out of course. Leave the toothpicks in place for a while to allow time for the roots to take hold. Finished Product: | |
| | | Elrollo Major
Posts : 870 Location : Virginia Beach Favorite Fish: : Blue Acaras...first fish I ever breed still have a soft spot for them
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 1:44 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 1:51 pm | |
| very very COOL idea!!!!!! Great work |
| | | James0816 Captain
Posts : 1194 Location : Spotsylvania, VA Favorite Fish: : Stingrays
Otocinclus Catfish
Kuhli Loaches
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 1:54 pm | |
| Thx...and between the shrimp and Oto fry...they just love it. | |
| | | strawman1985 Moderator
Posts : 476 Location : Asheboro, NC Favorite Fish: : Jack Dempsey...Red Tail Shark... Severum... Raphael Cat...Cardinals...Cory's... Hy511's There are many more as well
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 5:14 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 5:54 pm | |
| I love plastic canvas sheets they are so great for planted tanks. Thanks for the info. Looks great. I did similar but did not use a heat gun but sewed the ends with fishing line. |
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| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/21/2011, 6:39 pm | |
| That is just awesome! I was going to mention the fishing line too but Vixen beat me to it! |
| | | FishWithTeethLover Private First Class
Posts : 44 Location : Keller, Texas Favorite Fish: : All Central American Cichlids, Umbie, Red Festae, Red Tail Catfish, Tigrinus Catfish, Tiger Shovel Nose Catfish, Clown Knives, All Large Pikes, Haplochromis and Large Growing Mbuna.
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/26/2011, 10:00 am | |
| - FishVixen wrote:
- I love plastic canvas sheets they are so great for planted tanks. Thanks for the info. Looks great. I did similar but did not use a heat gun but sewed the ends with fishing line.
I use to use fishing line now I like using clear zip ties. | |
| | | wildbeanerz Captain
Posts : 1151 Location : Roaring Spring, PA Favorite Fish: : Love my black ocellaris!
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/26/2011, 10:25 am | |
| Very cool project that looks like most anyone could handle! Good info! | |
| | | James0816 Captain
Posts : 1194 Location : Spotsylvania, VA Favorite Fish: : Stingrays
Otocinclus Catfish
Kuhli Loaches
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/26/2011, 10:30 am | |
| Thx all!
I found the hardest part being getting the right size porportions of the front and back grid. | |
| | | jessecichlidguy Moderator
Posts : 1093 Location : menifee Ca Favorite Fish: : cichlids cichlids cichlids
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/26/2011, 10:54 am | |
| absolutely wonderful thanks for sharing | |
| | | wblueus Master Sergeant
Posts : 272 Location : Oklahoma Favorite Fish: : cichlids
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/27/2011, 6:40 pm | |
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| | | whisper Betta Specialist
Posts : 1990 Location : Euless, Texas Favorite Fish: : Betta's,Fancy Guppies, Plecos, kio.
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 1/29/2011, 10:37 pm | |
| WOW that is awsome. Great job. | |
| | | elfwolfe Chief Wrnt. Off. 2
Posts : 381 Location : San Antonio, TX Favorite Fish: : graduating from community fish to aggressive fish (cichlids), but will always have a soft spot for my krbs and betta's.
| | | | strikingthematch Captain
Posts : 1118 Location : Virginia Beach, VA Favorite Fish: : Discus, Stingrays, Arowana, Rams, and Angels
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 12:07 am | |
| Thats really cool! haha I really like the "fish house" idea. I think some of my fish would love it. They like the plants but some of the tetras will hide under the space I leave under my diftwood. Should be fairly easy to make hehe and the next project begins! | |
| | | the.c.word Private
Posts : 28 Location : San Diego, CA Favorite Fish: : The kind that live in water. :)
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 12:57 am | |
| I can't wait to use some of these great ideas on my 55! | |
| | | James0816 Captain
Posts : 1194 Location : Spotsylvania, VA Favorite Fish: : Stingrays
Otocinclus Catfish
Kuhli Loaches
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 6:24 am | |
| I like the idea of a moss arch way as well. Just to throw that out there. | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 9:42 am | |
| The fish house should look nifty once it grows out! Nice spin off! |
| | | istrober Moderator
Posts : 2643 Location : Lehigh Acres, Fl Favorite Fish: : Africans, Peacocks, Catfish.. pertty much everything that has fins and tail...
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 9:45 am | |
| nice work james..!! keep us posted! | |
| | | mike205 First Lieutenant
Posts : 692 Location : shelby, Alabama Favorite Fish: : peacocks and koi
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 6:35 pm | |
| looks good cant wait to see it filled out keep us updated | |
| | | mike205 First Lieutenant
Posts : 692 Location : shelby, Alabama Favorite Fish: : peacocks and koi
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 2/10/2011, 6:37 pm | |
| looks good cant wait to see it filled out keep us updated | |
| | | grad2k1rulz Private First Class
Posts : 35 Location : Overland Park, KS Favorite Fish: : I'm finicky and picky so it varies and changes regularly.
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 7/10/2011, 9:43 pm | |
| I'm curious to know how these tanks look now that it is 4-5 months after starting this venture! Can you post new pics if they have grown in?!?! | |
| | | elfwolfe Chief Wrnt. Off. 2
Posts : 381 Location : San Antonio, TX Favorite Fish: : graduating from community fish to aggressive fish (cichlids), but will always have a soft spot for my krbs and betta's.
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 7/10/2011, 9:47 pm | |
| my A-frame died, but I now have a syno who calls it home.... my large 8X10 is starting to grow, it has a 1/4 inch growth on it (it didnt start growing till it floated to the top, so I left it there and its growing).
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| | | grad2k1rulz Private First Class
Posts : 35 Location : Overland Park, KS Favorite Fish: : I'm finicky and picky so it varies and changes regularly.
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 7/10/2011, 9:54 pm | |
| Oh, interesting, My hatchet fish would probably love that! | |
| | | James0816 Captain
Posts : 1194 Location : Spotsylvania, VA Favorite Fish: : Stingrays
Otocinclus Catfish
Kuhli Loaches
| Subject: Re: Planted Ledge 7/11/2011, 6:10 am | |
| - grad2k1rulz wrote:
- I'm curious to know how these tanks look now that it is 4-5 months after starting this venture! Can you post new pics if they have grown in?!?!
Thought I had an updated pic in the The Oto Journal but guess not. Here is the most recent shot of the ledge. Has been trimmed several times since it was originally built. Back left corner behind the Bacopa monnieri. | |
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