attempting to breed discus

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Here is a pic of the 45g tall that the pair is in

It has a heater, 2 sponge filters a little bit of wood with a java fern on it and a filter intake tube suction cupped to the tank wall. They bred all 3 times in the community tank on the filter intake tube so I gave them one as their spawning site
The pair;
Tiger is the female

And Scarface is the male


They took very good care of the eggs in the 90g community but they were getting too rough on all the other discus in there so I needed to move them out. Lets see how they do in their own tank and see if I can manage to get fry from them

I hope so!!!

so close yet so far.

deff true!!! its so hard to get it just right for them to breed

Well they spawned again, this time on the lift tube of the sponge filter.

Fern.............Do nothing but watch!
Good luck

I'm doing the normal morning & evening feeding and that it! I did turn that sponge filter off, there are 2 in the tank.
Either they do it themselves or I don't have fry
This is the 4th or 5th batch of eggs and they have yet to get to the wiggler stage. I haven't figured out if they are eating viable eggs or the male isn't doing his job and that's why they are eating them. Other than that they are excellent parents.

They laid the eggs with the filter running, so why turn it off......The circulation, if it is not heavy, should keep stuff from settling on the eggs.......Also, you will eventually get a beneficial bacteria die off with out the oxygenated water passing thru the filter.....................Just something to think about.

The KISS method I really am over thinking this aren't I?
I'll turn the sponge back on low....

dont loose hope it takes awhile for them to get it right a young pair will have several fail attempts before they get it right and once they get it right will still have low number of fry that survive.Once they mature and get the hang of it so to speak everything improves number of living and you can almost set your watch to it

And they ate the eggs....
Either they spawn successfully or they don't, I'm not incredibly concerned about it.

Is the tank they are in a quiet low traffic area?......Are there any objects in the tank like live or plastic plants that would provide some sense of security?.......Any other fish that could be threatening the area that the pair has chosen to lay eggs on.......Any plecos or other nocturnal fish that could be getting the eggs in the darkness?

Mine just spawned again too. But they are not the best parents they leave the eggs if I come near. Where my angles never leave the eggs. One was always there. Mine eat the eggs too but I'm not trying to breed the discus they are in the discus tank with others. But I'm working on breeding my blue angles. I have gotten fry from them. If I do a good job with the angles then I will try discus. But the thing with discus is they need to be older to have a good spawn. Like 10-12 months old.

The tank is as pictured above. They are the only fish in there.... Very low traffic area, its in my fish room and I'm the only one that goes in there.

Try a larger object for them to lay on such as a tall piece of 2 inch dia dark PVC pipe or a flat 2 or 3 inch wide piece of plexiglass.........Maybe giving them a roomier area to lay might help.....They may be having trouble with the eggs being bunched up.....Just a thought.

I know I have large white PVC, I will get a piece cleaned up and see if they like it or not. If they don't like that I think I have some 3" blue in storage and I can try that. PVC is something I have a bunch of!
I can probably throw a T on it and hang it into the tank rather than attempting to make it stand in the tank........

you have a fish room? i want one fern.

I have a fish room full of tanks and some random tanks scattered throughout my hose, then the behemoth in the garage and planning on another massive system in the garage.
Yup BAD case of mts lol

I just caught Scarface eating the eggs
Looks like I'm going to have to make a cage or pull him next time.

bad boy!

Yup that's why the eggs haven't made it past 3 days so far But now I know who is doing it!!

And now they are all gone..... I guess I will try the egg cage first, give him a chance to care for fry. If that doesn't work by the 3rd time I will have to pull him

Ok new batch of eggs and and I just pulled scarface, I'm drip acclimating him into the main 90g.
Lets see if Tiger has what it takes!

So what water change regiment do I need to do? When do I start?

Well Tiger is doing good with her eggs so far! She hasnt freaked or anything about me pulling her man

So far so good, she is caring for the eggs quite well

congrates