dead fish.......

one of my buddies judt set up a lil 10 for his daughter!! he bought her a cple neon tetras gold fish and a cpl common plecos!!! and a lil pincher crab..... (this was last thursday) this morning he came to work and told me that all his fish died!!!!!!(exept the crab)
he said that he did everything the chemical bottles said to do!!
"start right" "PH stuff" "amonia fighter" etc.......

wat could have been the cause of so many deaths??

any 1??? idk wat could have caused all this i am mistified.....i dont reaaly know much bout tetras and crabs lol

The crab prolly ate them all, was the tank cycled?
Gold fish, crabs and common plecos should never be put into a 10g no matter what!
All those fish have different water and temp needs!

thats wat i told him but he seem too exited for his dughter to listen.....
the crab didnt eat them becuz he told me that they were all belly up! and he took pix with his phone! lol
and yes the tank was cycled!! i set it up for him! it ran for bout a week i gave him some gravel from a tank or mine to help.....

LOL i told him to join but this guy is always busy and workin on trucks!!!
anyways! n he wont listen to me......
the tank was cycled for a week!! the 10 gal used to be mine! N i kept a good amount of fish in their b4 i gave it to him....they never died on me???
could it be that the fish he bought from the pet store were sick??
i know wat store he got em from and i know bout that place doesnt QT their stock.........

Very bad combo of fish. common plecos and gold fish are poop machines

lol yeah..thats true!!!.. but could they have died from exposure of too much poop??? lol

Lots of poop = high levels of ammonia.

Was the bacteria fed when the tank was empty?

yeah i know i think thats wat cuased it and yeah
pinches of flakes..........

Fern wrote:

The crab prolly ate them all, was the tank cycled?
Gold fish, crabs and common plecos should never be put into a 10g no matter what!
All those fish have different water and temp needs!

The store he bought them from should have never sold him that combo knowing they would be going in the same tank lol

true!!!! lol but all their interested in is makin that ca$h!!!!
they dont care wate happens to the fish!!!
i told my buddy that i would trade him back the 10g for a 30....hopefully hell be able to keep sumthin alive in their!! haha
ill set it up for him......c wat happens! ill choose the fish this time:)

CajunGator wrote:

Wow must of been one heck of a spike... I agree with others. Good luck on restarting tank. please dont get discouraged.

its hard to spend money and try all over but keep trying itl be fun

ricardorocks wrote:

CajunGator wrote:

Wow must of been one heck of a spike... I agree with others. Good luck on restarting tank. please dont get discouraged.

its hard to spend money and try all over but keep trying itl be fun

I agree with you on this one, but with those type of fish I'm sure it was hard to avoid the spike. Good luck with the restart of this tank I am sure we have all experienced problems at one time or another.

If its a tank for a little girl I would go with mostly live bearers, especially if your giving the guy a 30g. 3 fancy guppys in a 10g or 8 fancy guppys and 1 rubber lip or bristlenose pleco in a 30g. If they get male and female I'm sure you could 'rehome' the fry into some of your fishes belly's.
If he can find them get 2 banana plants, they are easy and hardy and will help keep the tank a little nicer. I managed to keep them alive when I was 6y/o and had a 20g.

DO NOT ADD MORE THAN 3 FISH PER WEEK!!!!!! That will give the bacteria time to catch up

The only chemical that any tank needs is a dechlorinator (prime), throw the rest of that funky stuff out, its pointless and can accumulate in the water and become harmful.

kool thank you all for the great help and advice!!i apreciate it!!
u guys are awsome!