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zeketaz
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PostSubject: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 4:18 pm

I got different plants and they're alive, but not growing. Here's a pic of my sad lighting. Plan on getting better lighting when I can

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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 4:24 pm

Java grows slow anyway so don't worry. Are you using any ferts for your plant? If so what type?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 4:59 pm

I've had it over a year and it seems to be shrinking lol. I used seachem once. A cap full each of the Flourish and Flourish Excel
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 6:15 pm

Use the excel like once a week and that will put some growth on your plants.
What K rating are your light bulbs? It should say on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 6:31 pm

No clue the rating..will look tomorrow before I turn the lights on so they're not hot.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 7:08 pm

Ok sounds good, you are after 10k or 65k or anything in between.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 7:15 pm

well one bulb is only 5.5k. It's a zoo med T-8 Flora Sun Max Plant Growth. Only 15 watt cause it's only 18" No wonder there isn't enough light...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 7:21 pm

so that is a 5,500 color light. decent.
I see you have 3 fixtures? One 4' one 18" and another little 18"ish?

How often are you doing water changes? Any more than once a week will take too many nutrients away from the plants. Less than once every 3 weeks is bad for them too.

I need to make the time soon to come see what you have going on
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 7:38 pm

lol yeah my fixtures are sad... As for WC I need to do one..been bad and haven't done one in a few weeks
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 8:05 pm

I've heard some people have had bad results using excel with Java Moss.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 9:55 pm

I doubt the lighting is the prob I have a 20 gall tank with just a 15 watt bulb and its only 3200 k ..and my java moss grows like crazy! Anything on the bottom of the tank doesnt get much light so you can put your moss up higher or just buy a clip on light and clip it on the side of your stand if theres enough overlap to clip it.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime1/31/2011, 10:53 pm

5,000 to 10,000 k will grow plants.. java moss is a really slow grower but will grow.
also keep up with the water changes and ferts....
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/1/2011, 6:03 am

1/2 dose a week of the excel is all that is really needed for any plant.
Java moss does take quite some time to get going....
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/1/2011, 7:45 am

I couldn't find much on the other 2 bulbs. The big one is 35 watts that's all I could find.

Fern let me know what time and day is good for you if you would be able to come look at my tank. I'm always home lol
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/1/2011, 1:46 pm

I can't plan anything till my mom is out of the hospital.... I will let you know.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/5/2011, 1:42 pm

Looks like you've got clear glass/plexiglass over your tanks. Go get some 24" undercabinet strips from walmart. Change the bulbs to daylight bulbs - or growlight bulbs, either will work.

I get a good 1/4-1/2" of growth on my java moss. Greens up very fast and starts growing when a tablespoon of MgSO4 (epsom salt) per 5 gallons is added. Also does better when I'm feeding more shrimp pellets - most likely needs the phosphates. I use Flourish by Seachem once a week, and FloraMax substrate. I'm always cutting/harvesting it to make more every time it gets to 2.5"

I'm even getting 1/2" growth from my other mosses just 2 weeks after receiving them from Malasia, spreading them thinly in the growing mats and tossing them in my tanks. The tank I'm getting the fastest growth in is a 5G lit by one growlight bulb and a reptile daylight bulb (50W total) - and it's in a window.

As for the other plants - wish I'd remembered to bring my camera home to download pics. I've got a 29T lit by one walmart strip growlight and a 24" daylight spectrum bulb. (both sit on top of a piece of plexiglass) I'm literally getting 4-5 leaves per day on a bronze water lilly I started from a bulb and 2-3 leaves per day on some Amazon swords. Again, using the FloraMax substrate, once-per-week Flourish/Seachem, and MgSO4.

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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/5/2011, 5:10 pm

Just went and got a new light

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Makes the tank a ton brighter, but now one of my EBJD don't seem to be acting normal :(
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/5/2011, 7:59 pm

That puts you in the mid light range cheers

Let me get things settled down with my mom and stuff and I can toss you together a bag of plants if you like? Just let me know how much you want to spend and I will bag accordingly Help Java Moss not growing 393849

The ebjd is just spooked by the light more than likely, if he isn't normal within 2-3 days then you worry.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/6/2011, 11:33 am

Don't worry about the EBJD. My two young ones freak out for a couple days whenever I change anything to do with their tank. They were even afraid of an apple snail for a few hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/6/2011, 12:56 pm

Sounds good Fern. I'm picky on plants lol what plants do you have?

My ebjd was acting off before I changed the light :( I think he may have internal parasites as he has white stuff hanging from his rear
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/6/2011, 5:08 pm

lol! If you are picky you can come shopping in my tanks and sump lol!

You treating with general cure?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Java Moss not growing   Help Java Moss not growing Icon_minitime2/7/2011, 7:16 am

OOoo shopping for plants sounds fun :) Get everything settled with your mom and all and then we can go from there. I'm not in a big hurry.
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