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Elrollo
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PostSubject: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 12:08 am

I seem them in use at LFS but most of the aquarium people I know do not use them. When I first started with fish 20 years ago an UGF and powerheads were all the rage. Now it seems people are going towards cannister/hob filters. I was just wonderinf if these filters are still viable...I have a 90 gallon with an UGF I can use. Since I am going to be setting it up for display/plant growth tank will the UGF pose any problems in the future?

Thanks as always for any suggestions/tips/comments
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 12:15 am

I found UGF a pain with planted tanks the roots get all tangled in them and you have to tear the tank down to clean them. Yes when I steally st were just rarted in 1966 theyarting with the silent giant air pump.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 8:24 am

Ya they are no good with planted tanks.
They are pretty much obsolete, much better filtration is available. With UGF all the gunk stays in the tank and is a pain to get out, with all other methods you can get the gunk out..... so ya not the best filtration any more.

One awesome use for them is in a cichlid tank where you are going to use a lot of rocks! Just lay the plates down before everything an you end up with a very nice way to distribute the weight of the rock pile!
I still have some of my old UGF's for just that reason, the plates could also be used as temp tank dividers in a pinch.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 4:22 pm

good idea using the UGF as a divider
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 4:41 pm

Well they fit the tank with and have nice holes all through them......
Not that I have used them as such yet but the thought had crossed my mind!
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 5:02 pm

Actually the one I have fits a 75,90,110 and comes in two plates one plate fits nicely top to bottom in the 90...good idea thanks fern
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 5:28 pm

Back in the day I also used UGF in every tank that I had,but I don't use them anymore.As Fern and Fishvixen said there not good for live plants.I work part time at a LFS and they don't even order them anymore and the ones that they still have instock are about 5 years old and used to have dust all over them until I cleaned them a couple of weeks ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 6:09 pm

I've used them as dividers and they work great. The up tubes I cover in silicone and roll in sand and gravel mix for caves. Just read my other post I meant was When I first started aquariums in 1966 they were just becoming popular.

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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 8:46 pm

Ya you got your Mords Wixed up!! lol!

I have the tubes from mine tossed into fry tanks that I have pleco fry and cichlid fry in, it gives the lil plecos a hidey spot.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime11/30/2010, 8:54 pm

I still have several tanks that I use them in. Just because they have been around forever doesn't mean that they don't work.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime12/1/2010, 10:06 am

Oh I know they do work but there are better options now.
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PostSubject: Re: Undergravel filters   Undergravel filters Icon_minitime12/1/2010, 10:23 am

Oh they work I just find they are more work to take care of. I use to "power flush" them to remove sediment and the tank would be filthy for a couple of days. They are just a pain with heavily planted tanks is all I'm saying.
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