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PostSubject: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 1:28 pm

I just got these free from a friend. 7 of them. she pointed to a dempsey in another tank sayin that's the mom, but I want to confirm...these fish look like convicts to me with the stripes for some reason... any idea what they are for sure?

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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 1:34 pm

What size are these they don't look like dempsy to me yet maybe be hybrid mix.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 1:46 pm

2 or 3 inch maybe not even that. she did only have one dempsey in the tank with a bunch of other random cichlids, i thought about the hybrid thing. hopefully they turn out neat... another guy i know got 9 of them, so thats 9 + 7 = 16 lil ones plus she had a lot more in her tank... do they normally have THAT many babies?
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 4:23 pm

Wow they look nice...I do not think they look like convicts or jacks....I will bust out axelrod's atlas and see if i find something close...good pics
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 4:29 pm

They do not look like convicts to me....
Here are pics of convicts-

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dcninja757 wrote:
do they normally have THAT many babies?

My convicts regularly spit out about 100 babies, and by the time they are big enough to catch (I leave them in the tank with other cichlids) I have about 15-20.... If I were to seperate the parents into a breeder tank, I could easily have close to that amount survive.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 5:18 pm

ok I think it is a Cryptoheros septemfasciatus
Also called the seven striped chiclid or cutter's chiclid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptoheros_septemfasciatus
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/28/2010, 5:19 pm

very pretty fish
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/29/2010, 7:51 pm

looks like hybrids to me ...
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/29/2010, 7:55 pm

were there convicts in with the dempsey? She might have picked up the convict eggs and became a surrogate. I just don't see dempsey in those fish.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime11/29/2010, 8:06 pm

it has the shape of a juvie firmouth.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 6:18 am

your pic looks more like a convict to me. here's my male JD back when I was a freshy
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I have a convict pic I will see if I can find it.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 7:51 am

I agree, since I've been shopping dempsey's heavily as of late - I've looked at quite a few banches of juvies. Do not look anything like those.

Firemouths did seem to look like that. I've just glanced at those - no expert.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 9:33 am

My fire mouth does not look like that. not to say its not some sort of hybrid. My fire mouth has a very long and fancy looking top fin. And its actually turned red along the top now.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 11:41 am

proyect01 wrote:
looks like hybrids to me ...

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Loook like a Convict and some sort of Cryptoheros mix. Not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 6:34 pm

Doesn't look like a dempsey, thus agreeing with KMX

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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 6:40 pm

Looks like a convict.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime3/3/2011, 6:10 pm

Looks like a firemouth/convict hybrid.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=187194&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=b2438f70943e66a362ef4055501befc6
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime3/3/2011, 7:20 pm

KMX wrote:
Loook like a Convict and some sort of Cryptoheros mix. Not sure.

convicts or dempsey? 858205 My thoughts exactly. I used to breed jacks and that fish doesnt look anything like what i had.
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PostSubject: Re: convicts or dempsey?   convicts or dempsey? Icon_minitime3/20/2011, 8:55 pm

They aren't septems-they are quite rare in the hobby and don't look like that.

I've seen convict x texas, firemouth, and a few others. and yours look a lot like one of the hybrids I've seen in the past. Sorry..
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