OMG EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First topic message reminder :

My big red turquoise (F) (Tiger) and my blue diamond (M) (scarface) are spawning
Pics and a video coming up in a bit!

Updates, We want updates! D#&n it! and more pics.

Looks like they are all still there! They are still mouthing and fanning them! There are a few eggs that are going bad, if they remove them I will be very impressed!
With the great level of care they are showing this spawn I think I need to start figuring out where to squeeze in another tank to put the pair in. Either a 29g or something in that range is what I'm thinking will be good for them.

Oh and the PH is 7 and I really didn't do anything special, I just took good care of them and fed them very well....

We know you take good care of all your fish.

I try to take very good care of all of my little critters, even the ones with 2 legs

Lol nice now I know where u can put them at !! Lol im glad that there doing so well for u

CONGRATS FERN good luch and yes we want pics

YEs! very nice fern.., that was quick! good job!

And they are nearly all bad, I guess the male didnt do his job...... oh well

They my be just young yet give them time. Sometimes they will lay infertile eggs there first few attempts sometimes up to 4 to 6 months.

And now all the eggs are gone. Ya I know breeding them can be a pain. Thats why I'm not gonna put them in their own tank till they have a good batch.

Don't get discouraged, most eventually get it right. If you got them to spawn the first time it just gets easier from there!!

I'm defiantly not discouraged, I just got them to be the 'pretty fish' in a show tank, I was very surprised that they did spawn!

Could GH be the reason they went bad? The tank is reading at 8GH
And its looking like they are fixing to spawn again!

Ok in some of the reading I have done they have said that you cant have adults with young or it will stunt their growth?
Is this true? Should I move the pair? I have some smaller guys in there and I sure don't want them to get stunted!!!

Oh and the tank options for the pair are; 45g tall, 29g and a 40g breeder if I can find somewhere to put it.
So what tank sounds best for them?

Had my pairs in 25g & 29g (favorite size of tank for breeding/growout), the lady where I got them had them in 25g to 55's as pairs.

Would a bigger tank be easier?

And will adults spawning in a tank with juvys stunt the juvys growth?

ya you can go with smaller tanks for breeding.
personally i dont like em. the discus breeders want you to change water daily and sometinmes im not in the mood.
so i went with a 40b. more room for stuff like that, cleaner water longer plus if i do get wrigglers and they grow up i dont have to move the juvies later on, just the parents.

its not a fact putting adults with juvies and stunting there growth, but a myth, so maybe?

Fern wrote:

Would a bigger tank be easier?

And will adults spawning in a tank with juvys stunt the juvys growth?

No fish spawning will not stunt other fish in the tank. Yes a pair can cause extra stress on takemates and stress can cause health problems.

I don't want to offend you but a few of your fish are already stunted.

Ok so I don't have to move the pair right away, good!
I know Tiny Tim is stunted hence his name, he is pretty much a little defective guy..... But he is cute to me No offense taken, I know some are defectives and should have been culled. Even the guy I got them from said he should have culled some of them. I got them originally to be pretty fish in a show tank but they have turned out to be much more in my eyes.
Do you guys think that Tiger and Scarface could make some nice fry? I think I will only focus on them in attempt's to breed..... Unless another pair is made and yall think they could make some nice fry.

Ok so they now decided to spawn on the aquaclear 70 intake..... but they seem to be getting a lot of eggs on the sponge over the intake! Do I turn the filter off? I have a 110 running as well so it will still have a decent amount of filtration.

I think I'm just going to turn it off till I get an answer....... I really want to know if this is a good pair and I'm guessing the flow wont help at all......

And now all of the eggs on the sponge are gone, I didn't see who ate them though.

hey fern,
let them try in a nice quiet spot in the tank with the other fish, it will boost there parental instincts and stuff. see if your water is soft enough so the eggs could hatch. just to make sure you dont have to females laying eggs or a dud male.
then if its worth it go try your hand with them in a breeder box..

The GH is 8 I called the guy I got them from and he said that shouldn't be an issue, he has had them spawn in a GH of 10 successfully. Scarface may not be doing his job but he is excellent at protecting the eggs and Tiger is cleaning and fanning away at them. They only ate the eggs that were on the sponge not the tube. I'm guessing they didn't think those eggs would work so they ate them?
The tubes are different and theres only eggs coming out of Tiger so I'm pretty sure its a proper pair.
They are young and this spawn is only their 2nd one so I will give them time. I wont move them to their own tank till they have some successful wigglers. No sense moving a pair that's not doing it right yet.

And more eggs.... But now after Scaface and Tiger have spawned Orange Soda is ready to go and she is trying to get Scarface to spawn with her and getting her butt kicked!
I just fed them so hopefully she can lay her eggs and not be beat up in the process. I guess I need to move the pair out asap?

wow ur guys are breeding like crazy, mine has not done anything but beg. 2 are close to 4 inches, 3rd one is coming up close as well. they need a bigger tank tho but im waiting for my 100 to work out its problems. ill transfer my fish to it in a week.