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| Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa | |
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airball2006 Sergeant 1st Class
Posts : 220 Location : Southlake, TX
| Subject: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 9:16 pm | |
| What are good tankmates for gibberosa? I am getting in a colony of 12 Gibberosa and would like to ensure that they have a good tank to live in. Currently, I have some peacocks (not very aggressive), gallireya reef, chailosi, and red zebra in my 150 Gallon Tank. If it is not a good idea to keep them in together with the mbuna, I will probably sell all the mbuna to make way for the gibberosa. The gibberosa will all be between 3-4" long. | |
| | | khrister USA Fishbox Sponsor
Posts : 1211 Location : Allen, TX Favorite Fish: :
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| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 9:20 pm | |
| What kind of Gibbs are you getting? I've been breeding fronts and I found that they are not compatible with lots of Africans...Mbunas will nip their fins, and they'll eat the smaller more calm Tanganyikans. If you don't care about nipped fins, breeding them in the future then they can be put in a mixed tank. They'll never be happy though. Also a minimum 6 footer (125g) is needed for these to thrive well, They can achive 4-6" easily a year in captivity. | |
| | | airball2006 Sergeant 1st Class
Posts : 220 Location : Southlake, TX
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 9:25 pm | |
| I am getting some Gibberosa Ikola. I guess I will start selling all of the mbunas and peacocks to make way for the Gibberosa. | |
| | | khrister USA Fishbox Sponsor
Posts : 1211 Location : Allen, TX Favorite Fish: :
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| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 9:30 pm | |
| Tanzanian! Cool! Okay I did not read 3-4" in size. That 150g is a perfect tank for 10...Weed out the Males or get Wild caught males to replace yours with and keep the females. I can help you vent them when they are 4-5 inches.
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Posts : 5845 Location : New Iberia, Louisiana Favorite Fish: : Cichlids, WC Syn Petricola, Shellies, Festae, Mbu Puffers, Koi Angels, ABN, Piranha, Mermaids
| | | | airball2006 Sergeant 1st Class
Posts : 220 Location : Southlake, TX
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 10:02 pm | |
| Jojo, what is the reason why we want to get rid of the F1 Males? Is it because the colors are not as bright as the WC? | |
| | | juice04 Sergeant
Posts : 114
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/18/2010, 11:15 pm | |
| I know I can find this on Cyphos (but I'm lazy),what was the reasoning that they split the Cyphotilapia family into Frontosas and Gibberosas | |
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| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/19/2010, 6:20 am | |
| Yes those Japanese dudes reclassified them into Gibbs and Fronts. Counted the scales along the lateral lines and concluded that they should be separated into 2 sub-species. Frontosa are 7 stripe Kigoma and Burundi type. Gibbs are Tanzanian, Zambian and Zaire. Can't find the article online anymore, but here are some excerpts from that article: " In 2003 Tetsumi Takahashi and Kazuhiro Nakayaa classified a second species of Cyphotilapia...Gibberosa, which is restricted to the southern half of the lake. It is likely that future species will be classied, beginning with a new northern species. Gibberosa differs from Frontosa in the following ways... Tetsumi Takahashi's and Kazuhiro Nakayaa's Abstract (Details differences between Gibberosa and Frontosa) Difference between Frontosa and Gibberosa A second species of Cyphotilapia (Cichlidae) is described from Lake Tanganyika. The new species is clearly distinct from Cyphotilapia frontosa in having three scale rows between the upper and lower lateral lines at center of body (vs two rows in C. frontosa). Furthermore, a greater number of scales on the longitudinal line (34–36 vs 33–35), fewer outer teeth on the upper jaw (31–52 vs 39–62), higher body (43.3–51.2% SL vs 38.2–46.5%), longer predorsal (37.5–44.9% SL vs 37.1–42.7% SL), longer dorsal-fin base (57.1–64.6% SL vs 53.8–60.9% SL) and longer pectoral fin (36.0–47.2% SL vs 31.3–41.7%) also distinguish the former species. The distribution of the new species is restricted to the southern half of Lake Tanganyika, whereas C. frontosa is allopatrically distributed in the northern half of the lake." But I think there is an article out there as well that says forget what the two Japs did for now and call them all Frontosa Alex if they are F1 from the same brood then you might want to get another male WC or F1 to diversify your gene pool | |
| | | juice04 Sergeant
Posts : 114
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/19/2010, 8:03 am | |
| Thanks Jo, surprised they didn't call it C. Takahashi (or some other japanese name)
What do you get when you have F1 mom and WC dad? F2 fry? Or some other designation? | |
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Posts : 1211 Location : Allen, TX Favorite Fish: :
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| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/19/2010, 9:18 am | |
| - juice04 wrote:
- Thanks Jo, surprised they didn't call it C. Takahashi (or some other japanese name)
What do you get when you have F1 mom and WC dad? F2 fry? Or some other designation? I am surprised they did not call it SASHIMI F2 there is no F1.5 lol | |
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Posts : 5845 Location : New Iberia, Louisiana Favorite Fish: : Cichlids, WC Syn Petricola, Shellies, Festae, Mbu Puffers, Koi Angels, ABN, Piranha, Mermaids
| | | | armthehomeless Private First Class
Posts : 48 Location : Houston Favorite Fish: : Benthochromis tricoti
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 6/19/2010, 5:56 pm | |
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| | | tropheus 1 Corporal/Specialist
Posts : 78 Location : montreal Favorite Fish: : Tropheus
| Subject: Re: Tankmates for Gibberosa/Frontosa 3/3/2012, 5:54 am | |
| I am currently keeping a group of Blue Zaire fronts. They are housed with my Hai Reef peacocks. They do not fight and keep to their own. Makes the tank really lively and the colors are really mind boggling!!!! My male front shows this real purple color when he is enticing a FEMALE TO BREED. While the male Hai Reef with its blue head and bright yellow body added in the mix, is quite the site to be seen!!!!! one of my favorite tanks that I keep. | |
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