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PostSubject: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 9:28 pm

Tonight I received 2 5"discus for free due to them having a fungus infection and the owner did not have time for them. He was going to freeze them tonight and I have the 50 tall ready so I took them. They are acclimating at the moment so no pics yet but should be within the next hour. What is the best med for fungus and discus anyone know?
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 9:39 pm

are they eating if not look at them head on and see if their head looks round or if it looks like someone pinched them over their eyes id keep the tank temp up to 86 and change 50% water everyday they are really bad about internal infections
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 9:41 pm

I'll continue my research until an actual expert chimes in: " Chloromycetin. Purchase it in powder form and use 1 teaspoon per 100 liters of water. Calculation the exact capacity of your aquarium is very important to avoid over dosing. In many cases, a significant improvement can be seen within 8 hours. Chloromycetin will dissipate after 12 hours and you may have to administer a second dose after two days to be on the safe side."
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 9:41 pm

What are the visuals on the things? Bill
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:21 pm

An article i just finished recommended temps of 96 Degrees (36 C).. with increased aeration..

Did the shop owner take a water reading of the water that accompanied the fish when they were brought into the shop?
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:36 pm

okay they are very thin! Heads pinched.

Discus #1
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:38 pm

Discus#2
(not as thin as #1)

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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:43 pm

do you want to cure him or cook him im not even sure a heckel can take those temps if hes been keep in poor conditions what i said earlier will work to evaluate them and see if it starts to clear up but if there noy eating it is a very bad sign and if they look pinched in the frontal view means they havent been eating i dont claim to be a expert cause i only have 25 years experence with them its hard to medicate without seeing them meds are a last resort vixen i just saw the pic they arnt going to make it i dont think see how they look pinched in the front after that they just waste away im very sorry on meds will help them
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:46 pm

Well I thought I'd try. I'll keep you posted.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:49 pm

meds will not help them i wish u luck but ill tell u its hard to watch them waste away they can live several months like that without eating im glad they got a good home
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 10:56 pm

Just tried Blood worms and they ate them like pigs.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 11:03 pm

thats good but dont get hopes up to high once they get like that they eat and will live several months but tend to waste away i lost my albino last month tried everything live 6 months ate but never recovered but i wish you all the luck in the world and if anybody can do it it will be you
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 11:08 pm

Thanks Discuskent. Yea my hopes were up!
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 11:18 pm

im really not tring to be mean but ive been thru this too many times and its broke my heart every time discus are very funny fish all it takes is eating one peice of bad food ive change to flake food in my tank to try and cut down on chances of getting ahold of a bad bloodworm and added corys to the tank alot of people dont keep any substrate and vacume tanks everyday just keep them waem 86 if possable they will like that i want to come the meeting on the 5th but dont know if i can make it yet ill let u knowlove to meet u all
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 11:51 pm

DK.. I'm pretty sure the meeting is on the 6th in case it wasn't a typo...
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/21/2011, 11:59 pm

Yes the meeting is on Sunday the 6th at 2 PM. I would love to meet as I am guest getting into discus. Have had angels for years.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 5:33 am

Hi Ursula
Yep what you got is (Discus wasting syndrome)they probably got one of these (Cryptocaryon, Hexamita, Ichthyophthirius) ,Its caused by people not changing water ,Not QTing other fish when added to the discus tank or not deworming them
If those two Discus were mime and I wanted save them here's what a Redneck would do .
Temp=88
30 % water change daily
add med after water change=Metronidazole at 1/8 Tea per 10 gal for 14 days
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 6:15 am

Tx.. That sounds like some good ole redneck advice!.. Great post.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 11:37 am

Now trying to get ahold of flagyl is the next step.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 12:12 pm

salt will help with the white stuff on the other guy, add salt to the tank. i had a guy waste away that i got from kleankord on the other forum. i still have the other one, teeters now and again. has more weight on him but still not perfect had him over 3 months now. just feed them 3 times a day with blood worm daphnia and sinking pellets, mix garlic in there to see if they have any parasites inside and do water changes. hes still alive doing that and he will light up every feeding time, hes slow but i feed him with my turkey baster to make sure he eats.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 12:23 pm

turned on the lights and they are almost black. I think they are going in the freezer today.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 12:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 12:32 pm

mine is always black and hes still alive, thought the other one will survive since he stayed lighter then him but hes still here lol, if you decide to do that at least they had a slim chance of being cared for properly.
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 5:57 pm

Hows their poop? White and stringy? If so more than likely Hexamita or HITH. If that is symptoms and they are eating I would threat with Metro mixed into their food @ 1gram metro per 100grams of BH mix. Also bump up the temp and keep up om those water changes..
I have seen some pretty sad looking fish bounce back here.. Just depends on how long they have been ill and previous etcs...

Also have had good luck with API General Cure as it also has Praziquantel as well as Metro, so if your not sure on what is going on it covers more basis.. But is EXPENSIVE!!

Also I would give them a light dose of epsom salt.. First off..

But Im no expert, just from personal experience...
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PostSubject: Re: New discus question.   New discus question. Icon_minitime2/22/2011, 8:27 pm

Well they turned black and just sitting on the bottom barely moving even when touch by a net so they are in the freezer now. I guess the move was too much for them in their condition.
Now the next step what do I do to clean the tank?
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