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 Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii

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GACichlidProject
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Rico
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PostSubject: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/23/2010, 8:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

Ever wondered what these two would look like. Electric blue ahli colors on a blue dolphin body. well here they are. the flash washed out the colors but ill get better pics up later.

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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/24/2010, 7:50 pm

money is paper $$$
im talking about ethic study
because many people chose the wrong path we need to follow ......
please think about it !!! fish
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/24/2010, 9:43 pm

I think ive seen these fish at fish gallery

I'm not defending the OP but look at the beautiful OB peacocks and firefish in the hobby. They are popular and with the right strains they fetch premium price tag. These are not natural Malawi fish. I remember a 5" firefish at an auction this year it was bid by many folks and ended up nearly 60 bucks. I've owned both firefish and ob peacock so I can't really bash this dude

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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 11:16 am

No bashing here. Just lending some knowlege. Most people do this b/c they don't know any better.

I can tell you right now ....no real hobbiest is betting on OB Peacocks or any other hybrid KNOWING what it is, and where it came from.

Bottom line is us humans are not breeding pit bulls with a warewolf so why do it with fish?

HYBRIDS ARE NOOOOO GOOOOD poop poop poop poop poop


I would alos bet many users are not speaking there mind on this topic so it dose not get out of hand. Let me asure you that it won't. Please people speak your mind. This is always a great topic.

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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/25/2010, 1:05 pm

theres a pet store here in San Antonio that sells hybrid haps and he says that its getting harder to sell cichlids sometimes due to, to many breeders that you can get them cheaper from, so he sells hybrids like this that are cheap to still make profit. I wonder what else are people working with those ob dolphins tripped me out.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/26/2010, 11:34 pm

kinsol wrote:
theres a pet store here in San Antonio that sells hybrid haps and he says that its getting harder to sell cichlids sometimes due to, to many breeders that you can get them cheaper from, so he sells hybrids like this that are cheap to still make profit. I wonder what else are people working with those ob dolphins tripped me out.

exactly.... bread and butter is always going to sell. everyone doesn't have the taste and money for lobster.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 12:26 am

Yellow labs are pure...sell for $1 each sometimes you have to give them away. Has nothing to do with anything other then keeping species pure. Money is overrated anyways. I just want to give all mine away. Soon it will be worth nothing! Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 772341 lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 7:24 am

this is the longest post about hybrids i ever seen lol...
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 7:35 am

all money is is numbers on a computer somewhere and there is a lot more numbers than there is silver gold and trees to say to print all our IOU's lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 9:33 am

Hold on to your silver and gold....these coins are going to be worth more then the dollar soon.
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yeap! sure is.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 10:32 pm

i went to several fish stores today in houston and 2 of them were selling these. the fish gallery and TNT.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/27/2010, 10:44 pm

How much?

what did you get? Did you see nick yet?
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i did not look at the price. i also didnt get anything and no.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/28/2010, 9:46 am

In addition to being worthless in the trade, hybridizing Cichlids is unethical, as far as I am concerned.
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GACichlidProject wrote:
In addition to being worthless in the trade, hybridizing Cichlids is unethical, as far as I am concerned.

Great 1st post. I like you already! lol!
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Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 858205 If it happens in nature and produces a NATURAL strain, fine. Produced in tanks, no good.
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PostSubject: Re: Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii   Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 Icon_minitime12/28/2010, 5:43 pm

all of nature changes but it can take many lifetime for just a small change to occur. When you're changing DNA and total characteristics of an animal (or plant even) You are speeding up evolution and playing god. Just my opinion. Look at how many species have changed over 40 years. (ie the discus) and 40 years is not lifetimes. Now the amazon is shrinking and # of fish are dwindling are we going to have any pure discus to restock if we can get the enviorment back or are we going to restock with a hybrid?
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fish gallery has them for 69.99. i sell mine for $25
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All I can say is, wow.... yall really hate hybrids. And the comment about wishing a merry christmas and a power outage was a bit uncalled for IMO.

Rico, they are very pretty fish (though I dont like OB's), and I completely understand about having to make money.

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I agree elf. We can agree to disagree like civil adults.
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You said something about moor pictures?HOOK IT UP! btw-dont worry about peoples judgements,it was god who got those fish to mate.whats UNETHICAL about it anyway,70 bucks a pop-no wonder y'all gettin so crazy,thats a lot of money! Sciaenochromis Fryeri x Cyrtocara Moorii - Page 2 772341
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Quote :
btw-dont worry about peoples judgements,it was god who got those fish to mate.whats UNETHICAL about it anyway,

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Can't stand hybrids in the hobby. I would not pay $70 for a pure bred fish let alone a hybrid. I cannot stand OB peacocks, firefish, blood parrots, flowerhorns, etc. The market for hybrids would not exist if responsible breeders and sellers did not try to sell them in the first place. The public would not know they exist and would not ask for more of them. The majority of people that purchase these kinds of fish are uninformed. The only LFS in my city besides the two chain stores has almost completely switched over to selling hybrids haps/peacocks full of hormones. I feel sorry for the people that purchase these glowing "males" at 1.5" only to find they are a female several months later assuming they survive that long. People will pay for quality most of the time if they can see the difference. There are several LFS in the austin area that I know of that manage their livestock to reflect this. I just do not see what the attraction is to purchase these hybrids...once you see a mature ngara, flavescent, azureus, etc...why would you want something inferior and man made?
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