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micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 11:33 am | |
| Ok so here is a rundown. I have a 90 gallong African Tank, I use salt, PH 8.2 and do water changes. I added about 20 fish in the last month, only 2 in the last week. In the last week i have lost 5 fish that i know of: 2 yellow tail acei, 2 snow white socolofi, 1 blue zebra. And i have notice white stuff and sores on some of my peacocks as well as these fish that passed on... i jsut notice yesterday.. In the last 2 weeks i have, swept gravel, done 2 waters changes, added holey rock, and added two wild caught fish. Here are some pics, please help me diagnose what it is, what is causing it and how to get rid of it
Last edited by micahsutton on 2/1/2010, 11:35 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : typo) | |
| | | ssteelhead Staff Sergeant
Posts : 171 Favorite Fish: : oscar
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 11:38 am | |
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| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 11:41 am | |
| Oh i forgot to add, some have this white around their mouth and looks like little red sores around the mouth area as well. | |
| | | Holey Rock of Texas Admin
Posts : 6531 Location : Dallas, TX Favorite Fish: : shellys
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 11:50 am | |
| - ssteelhead wrote:
- looks like fin rot
i agree | |
| | | h0ngkn0t2 First Lieutenant
Posts : 668 Location : Grand Prairie, Texas Favorite Fish: : African cichlids, Bristlenose Plecos and Koi
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:01 pm | |
| yes, start treating them immediately. What temp do you have them at? If you have a QT then I would place the ones affected in there and treat them separately so the rest don't get infected. What are your water parameters? Let us know how it turns out. Good luck! | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:16 pm | |
| I would also add in methyline blue, its good to help prevent/cure fungus... It looks like you may have a bit of that going on in there as well. |
| | | ilicurtisili Admin
Posts : 1433 Location : Watauga
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:19 pm | |
| - ssteelhead wrote:
- looks like fin rot
how many fish have it? | |
| | | CajunGator Moderator
Posts : 5845 Location : New Iberia, Louisiana Favorite Fish: : Cichlids, WC Syn Petricola, Shellies, Festae, Mbu Puffers, Koi Angels, ABN, Piranha, Mermaids
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:22 pm | |
| I definitely agree, quarantine tank would help prevent the others from getting sick. Treat Treat Treat | |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:37 pm | |
| - h0ngkn0t2 wrote:
- yes, start treating them immediately. What temp do you have them at? If you have a QT then I would place the ones affected in there and treat them separately so the rest don't get infected. What are your water parameters? Let us know how it turns out. Good luck!
I know the temp is 76, the ph is about 7.8. And last time i checked the nitirate and nitrites were perfect. I will check everything when i get home today. Any recommendations on medications? | |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:38 pm | |
| - ilicurtisili wrote:
- ssteelhead wrote:
- looks like fin rot
how many fish have it? like 5 thats i know of. out of the 35-40 in the tank | |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 12:39 pm | |
| - Fern wrote:
- I would also add in methyline blue, its good to help prevent/cure fungus... It looks like you may have a bit of that going on in there as well.
methyline blue- never heard of it, where do i get it? | |
| | | Holey Rock of Texas Admin
Posts : 6531 Location : Dallas, TX Favorite Fish: : shellys
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 2:58 pm | |
| walmart sells it. it comes in a eye dropper bottle. also you can get it at any pet store (pets-mart, petco, local fish store, etc.) | |
| | | Holey Rock of Texas Admin
Posts : 6531 Location : Dallas, TX Favorite Fish: : shellys
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 3:04 pm | |
| also could use any anti bacterial med for extrenal gram negative bacteria) ex: Maracyn, Maracyn-Two, Maracyn Plus Antibacteria and Tetracycline | |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 3:10 pm | |
| And u guys are sure even though these white areas are visible on their bodies and mouth? Or is that a bacterial infection plus the fin rot? What causes this stuff? | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 3:17 pm | |
| Check this out
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/fresh/information/Diseases.htm#Tail%20Rot%20&%20Fin%20Rot | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 3:51 pm | |
| The methylene blue will say its for keeping fungus off fish eggs, but its a general anti fungal that is pretty cheap. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 3:52 pm | |
| Fin rot is also treated with formadehyde. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:07 pm | |
| hey you said you added some holy rock recently. do you think there could have been something on the rock that could have gave your fish a outburst like this?? |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:08 pm | |
| - Fern wrote:
- The methylene blue will say its for keeping fungus off fish eggs, but its a general anti fungal that is pretty cheap.
I couldnt find this at wal-mart or petsmart. I will keep looking | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:10 pm | |
| You could also use melafix or pimafix, it is all natural. That is what we used once and it seemed to work well. | |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:17 pm | |
| - Raschael wrote:
- You could also use melafix or pimafix, it is all natural. That is what we used once and it seemed to work well.
I think i will try that in 2 days if it is not gone. I added added the jungle fungus stuff and we will see from there. After further inspection i have a few fish with POPeye too??? I dont understand what is going on I take good care of my fish. Do you think two aquaclear 110's are not enough filtration? | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:19 pm | |
| what size tank?? what filter media do you use?? | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:24 pm | |
| I think one thing is that your over stocked. You need to get a 2nd tank and thin the numbers down in the 90g |
| | | micahsutton Sergeant Major
Posts : 299 Location : Puyallup, WA Favorite Fish: : Golden Nugget Pleco, Lemon Jake, Red Top Lwanda, Aulonocara Baenschi, Otopharynx Lithobates, and Frontosa's.
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:32 pm | |
| - Fern wrote:
- I think one thing is that your over stocked. You need to get a 2nd tank and thin the numbers down in the 90g
I have less then 2" per gallon for sure. I thought you were supposed to overstock on African Cichlids. I am new to africans so i might be wrong. | |
| | | Raschael Chief Wrnt. Off. 5
Posts : 506 Location : Waco, Texas
| Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! 2/1/2010, 5:36 pm | |
| Sorry. . re-read first post. A 90g with 15 fish isnt' bad, however, no offense, but Aquaclear isn't the "best" filter. 2 of them on your tank probably isn't enough filtration. We had 2 emp 400's on our 75g with 35 fish, and they did great. Overstocking isn't a problem as long as you have enough filtration, and is necessary with some types of fish. I would do another water change before adding meds and if you are using carbon, be sure to take it out. :) | |
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