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 I can't keep my live sand bed white?

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edub
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PostSubject: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/18/2011, 9:48 pm

Everything stays clean but the sand bed stays brown
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Elrollo
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/18/2011, 10:24 pm

You should have a bit of a color build up as bacteria takes root in your sand.
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 4:21 am

new tank? could be Diatoms. you can cut back on feeding/light.
Dwarf Cerith Eats Diatoms, Algae, Cyano and Detritus on your tanks substrate and on rocks I added over 300 of these to the 180 and never got a Diatom bloom. Nassarius Vibex Excellent sand stirrer or scavenger they pop out of the sand when they smell food, and when youre feeding the fish.

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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 9:13 am

i agree sounds like diatomes!
cant go wrong with the dwarf cerith they eat all that stuff!
how bigs your tank?
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Yeah, like 7-8 months.125g
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 3:15 pm

your tank should be pretty cycled by now lol
what do you keep in their? every when do you do water changes?
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 3:23 pm

alkomist... I take out 10 gallons every week.2 large voltions ,yellow tang,dom damsel,3 stripe dam,blue jaw trigger,mag rabbitfish,half black angel,tomato clown.I use RO water
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 4:16 pm

You might also think about sand sifting stars (depending on what else is in your tank). They, along with my Ceriths, always kept my sand bed white as can be! Unlike some stars (like chocolate chip and bristle) they aren't carnivores and won't endanger your snails, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/19/2011, 6:24 pm

how long do you keep your lights on for during the day?
i would to you CUC easy fix
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Yeah I keep it on for 13 hours a day. I like seeing my buddies sick
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/20/2011, 9:44 am

High bio load plus lots of light will make keeping your sand bed white extremely difficult.

My suggestions:
1.) Less light.
2.) Vac it off when you're doing water changes.
3.) Add more flow to suspend the gunk in the middle of the water column
4.) Beefier skimmer/filtration

Essentially reduce the nutrients and light available and the diatoms will die.

Snails and clean up crew probably aren't much of an option given the livestock you have. It'll just be all you can eat buffet for the lions. Your stocking list would have been helpful initially.
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I do vac it off,but like 2dayz later it's back.I do have blue leegged crabs.they get left alone.I think i;ll try snails when I get some extra $.
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Snails will clean it, and keep it clean, but I think you're just gonna be paying for a nice snack. Make sure you add snails with shells smaller than your hermits are in, or the hermits will kill them.
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime1/20/2011, 10:26 am

Is it cause they'll kill them for the bigger shell?If they clean better maybe I should switch over to snails
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yeah hermits are always looking to upsize their houses. They won't bum rush a big fat turbo snail right away though. They'll eye the property for a good while to make sure it's current owner is on top of the upkeep, and then they'll evict them.
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We gave our large snail back to the pet store they were devouring our plants
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PostSubject: Re: I can't keep my live sand bed white?   I can't keep my live sand bed white? Icon_minitime2/1/2011, 10:30 am

well, its a give and take, your running your lights too long, it will cause things to happen, case in point. nassarius snails are good but dont do much for diatoms you mite think about conch snails.. they are a nice size so the dont make an easy meal and they eat alot. mine does a pretty good job along with my astrea snails but, i have a diff set up
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