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Food - Any type of Salmon sushi.

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PostSubject: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/21/2011, 9:58 pm

Enjoy the pics!!!!! next time i go, which will be A LOT this summer, i'll get better ones, didn't even think of taking pics, only took a few..
Octopus chillin. and he was STRONG!!!!! i had both that's on my grabber thing and he had 3 legs wrapped around it and 5 pullin me in lol.
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these starfish were a foot in lenght, no joke HUGE!!!!
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MAY have taken a few things home, DON'T JUDGE ME!!!! lol Purple sea urchins
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STARBURST anemones, yeah I might have taken 2 of those also... SUE ME!! hahaha anyways after a week in quarrentine, moved them to my tank and they doing great!!! fish love them. but sshhh don't tell anyone..
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/21/2011, 10:26 pm

nice pics, your secert is good with me
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/21/2011, 10:52 pm

Great pictures and looks like you had a great time. Before next time check with your games dept. Here in Texas you need a fishing license with a saltwater stamp to collect. Great looking stuff you got for free.
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/22/2011, 11:35 am

congrats on raping the environment.
spend some $$$ and buy tank bred/raised, this is the kind of cr@p that gives reefers a bad wrap even the responsible ones, it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch...."so sue me" famous last words lozer
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/22/2011, 11:50 am

Nice pics, bro. I would hardly say that you "raped" the environment. We've explored more of space then we have a own ocean. So saying that you"raped" the environment is beyond a far stretch, especially considering the process that people who have licenses use to collect these things do... but then again I wouldn't listen much to Cwhip, she seems to try and be the bully of saltwater topics. Anyways man hope to see some more pics soon.
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/22/2011, 11:58 am

you are the uninformed, they are trying to ban reef keeping because of
things like this. do your research then open your mouth!
I had tanks before you two were even born.
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/22/2011, 10:24 pm

Nice pics Demonkegman, looks like you had fun.... Glad th specimens you collected survived the transition! I would have to agree with 3Frontosas, you hardly "raped " the environment, now had you taken a few hundred then yea, I could agree with that statement, but you didnt. The only thing I would suggest is to see about aquiring them in a... um, more legal manner $$$ (I will admit, I did the same thing once before too)

I dont agree with rudeness, after all, you get more bees with honey than vinager.... Enjoy your new friends, they really do look great!
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/25/2011, 8:21 pm

lmao!!!!! RAPE! RAPE! RAPE!!!!! I got no beef with your opinion cwhip, but 2 anemones as a test, for fun, never doing it again or trying to make a profit or a breeding farm, is not raping.... just an experiment... and it IS illegal in california. that's why i only did it once.. and beside i could care less, if i did i wouldn't have posted it.. i pay HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS for my beautiful fish, that's not the problemm btw...
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/26/2011, 4:45 am

Organisms in tide pools are protected by law.
Taking them home with you is illegal and will kill the animals. nearly all tide pool areas in California, are a protected environment. California Department of Fish and Game Wardens enforce these regulations
Because of a combination of pollution and people who remove sea life from tide pools in the past, the number of plants and animals in the California tide pools have declined in recent years. We need to leave living creatures alone so that they can repopulate the tide pools again. Poachers devastate nature by breaking laws designed to assure proper wildlife management and species survival. Poaching is an insult to the vast majority who do obey the rules. Because poaching is a crime of secrecy, its full impact in California tide pools is impossible to fully gauge. However, enough poaching is documented to realize that it exacts a very heavy toll. State Department of Fish and Game wardens do all they can to combat poaching. Yet some unthinking people and fishermen come there illegally and take and kill the octopus, sponges, limpets, snails, sea stars and anything that they can find. Do you know that an octopus is a very intelligent animal? Octopuses are highly intelligent, probably the most intelligent of any of the invertebrates, with their intelligence supposedly comparable to that of the average house cat. no to mention very difficult to keep and are great escape artists. One thing is for sure, humans do tread here and they do strip life from the rocks.
"inadvertent poachers," don't know it's against the law. Tourists and locals innocently fill up their beach pails with sand and rocks and critters to take home as keepsakes or as new additions to their saltwater aquariums.
Then there are the "hard-core poachers." They know it's illegal to take, but they do it anyway, taking home critters to eat, sell, or add to their saltwater aquariums. Poachers that fall into this category will often use poaching tools and are accompanied by lookouts, who warn the collectors of an approaching game warden.
approximately 50,000 visit these tidal zones annually that can represent a whole lot of collecting "ie" poaching. there is a very real negative environmental impact that the saltwater aquarium trade has on coral reefs. Most of the fish, live rock, and inverts and a good percentage of the corals sold today come from the wild. The collection of these wild specimens and the collection methods themselves can have a devastating impact on the reef. However, it’s possible to stock a thriving marine fish tank made up exclusively of aqua cultured or captive raised fish, live rock, and corals. Besides the benefit to the environment, there are other benefits to stocking your tank with captive bred specimens. These benefits include tank inhabitants that are:
* Hardier and better adapted to living in a marine fish tank
* Easier to feed
* Not as aggressive as wild caught specimens
* Less likely to have parasites or harbor infectious diseases. The marine side of the aquarium hobby often comes under a lot of flak from environmentalists and conservationists. With the bulk of the ornamental organisms taken from the wild, many people believe that the hobby places unnecessary strain on an already stressed system. Indeed, the marine hobby doesn’t have clean hands. In the past, poor and outright destructive methods of collection resulted in serious environmental problems, rightly justifying environmentalists’ concerns. As the marine hobby has grown, however, these problems have decreased, and these concerns are no longer quite as valid. As more aquarists have entered the marine hobby and more individuals have been exposed to marine aquaria, more individuals have become enamored with the ocean. More people have become concerned, increasing pressure to conserve these habitats. Coupled with advances in collecting and shipping technology, often made possible by increases in demand, the marine hobby has come a long way from its early days.
Catching fish on a coral reef is tricky and potentially harmful to the environment. Besides diminishing the fish population, collectors may damage corals and live rock in the capturing process. Divers sometimes use cyanide to temporarily paralyze fish. Although this method minimizes damage to the reef, it causes stress to the fish and sometimes death. Captive bred fish, on the other hand, are not chemically stunned and no coral is harmed in the process of raising them.
I suppose if doing the right thing makes me a "Bully" then that's fine:) I take full responsibility for my actions, I buy captive bred/tank raised and Aqua cultured/Mariacultured specimen's when ever possible in hopes that we will never see the day when keeping these exotic creatures in our home aquariums becomes illegal..


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P.S. it's good to hear you are not going to do it anymore. yes

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If everyone that owned sw tanks in your state went out and followed your example what do you think would happen to the ecology there? Just something to ponder next time you so nonchalant with "just sue me"
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ehh i stand by what i said and did...
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I'm finding that this "community" is not very welcoming, in the forum rules it states that this is a welcoming site... getting called a rapist is not very nice.... lol! jk
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/26/2011, 9:48 pm

Demonkegman wrote:
I'm finding that this "community" is not very welcoming, in the forum rules it states that this is a welcoming site... getting called a rapist is not very nice.... lol! jk



Thank You!!! That is exactly my point... Then it ended up turning the thread into a huge argument... its stupid, and makes the other person look foolish... It also takes all of the fun out of the forum... Your right! The rules clearly state that it welcomes all... my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. 858205
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3Frontosas wrote:
Demonkegman wrote:
I'm finding that this "community" is not very welcoming, in the forum rules it states that this is a welcoming site... getting called a rapist is not very nice.... lol! jk



Thank You!!! That is exactly my point... Then it ended up turning the thread into a huge argument... its stupid, and makes the other person look foolish... It also takes all of the fun out of the forum... Your right! The rules clearly state that it welcomes all... my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. 858205

Very true, which is why I replied the way that I did. I felt a softer tone was needed rather than a harsh and insulting tone. As I said before, you get more bees with honey than you do with vinigar (funny thing, you really do, I use to feed the bees in Germany some honey, and sit there watching them eat).
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Here in Texas you can collect as lomg as you have a license. When the seaweed washes in the collecting is great As far as raping the environment then hunters rape the environment. Nature produces way to many that you would never notice the missing. Example look at all the saltwater and all the freshwater taken from the wild. I have never seen damsels or cardinals ever being in short supply. As far as buying only buying tank raised saltwater your being fooled. Yes there are some but 99 percent are still being collected. All the fancy titles on saltwater are just to make you feel good about yourself. Tank raise salt is about 15 times more expensive than wild. That includes air freight, tariffs, boxes.
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Aren't urchins considered a nuisance species in california? If so they look great in your tank :) They taste great also :) just in case you need to get rid of some evidence. Great pics love that octopus shot hard to ever see those guys and to get pic in a tide pool is awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal.   my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. Icon_minitime5/27/2011, 7:45 am

First of all I'm not the one that keeps resurrecting this thread.
Second you don't think calling someone a Bully is an insult? funny I've never been called that before:) as for tone you hear what you want to hear.
The issue is taking these creatures from the Tide Pools, it's illegal, even if it wasn't these animals will die
in your aquarium so where is the responsibility lie in that?
The mortality rate among wild-caught fish is 80 to 90 percent even before they land in the pet store, and about 50 to 60 percent of the initial survivors after that, a lot of these fish are being driven towards extinction, and if we can learn how to raise them, we can preserve them.
Unlike most marine fish species, the Banggai Cardinal fish is confined to a relatively small area in the wild and has been very vulnerable to over collection, the Endangered Status, the Banggai does remain on the IUCN Redlist as "endangered".
Dr Who wrote "As far as buying only buying tank raised saltwater your being fooled." well with that statement I have to say I know people personally that captive breed many species of fish and fragment corals. I don't buy from LFS 99% of the time and when I do there is only one LFS that I would even considering buying from, "All the fancy titles on saltwater are just to make you feel good about yourself." I get most of my stock from other Reefers/friends so there's no need to worry about making myself feel good. what a crock! "hunters rape the environment. Nature produces way to many that you would never notice them missing" wrong you can not compare this to hunting Deer,Elk, Bear,Pheasant these animals don't have mass die off because of their enviroment being polluted like Marine fish do LOL so far I have never seen a mammal drop dead from air quality. as far as Damsels go they should be left in the ocean they are mean as h3ll and most times you can't give them away, atleast to anyone who knows how they are...
"Aren't urchins considered a nuisance species in California?" yes, so when they die in this guy's tank he can eat them so its not a total loss.
This is a Welcoming forum but it also should be a place to learn rather than just mindless chatter and ignorant comments like "just sue me"and being proud of the fact that you admittedly took these animals from a protected area.
captive breeding or to put it technically “aquaculturing ornamental marine fish” was once a distant dream for saltwater aquarium owners and was thought an incomprehensible dark art… But today thanks to the food fish industry, public aquaria and scientific advancement captive breeding of many marine fishes is a reality and the list of species successfully bred is increasing every day. This contrasts with freshwater aquarium fish which are mostly captive bred and wild caught examples are the exception rather than the rule.The difficulty lies in that each species of marine fish has its own breeding strategy brought about by unique environmental cues many of which are still not completely understood by science. Then everything must be just so for breeding to take place; low stress levels, a compatible breeding pair, the right environmental conditions, excellent nutrition, romantic music LOL… To date the only major marine fish groups to have species unable to be captive bred are Butterflyfish and Tangs.
CAPTIVE BRED WHOLESALERS FISH LIST:

Angelfish
Coral beauty (Centropyge bispinosus)
Lemon peel (Centropyge flavissimus)
Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
Fisher’s angel (Centropyge fisheri)
Japanese pygmy angel (Centropyge interruptus)
Multicolor angel (Centropyge multicolor)
Masked angel (Genicanthus personatus)
Grey angel (Pomacanthus arcuatus)
Asfur angel (Pomacanthus asfur)
French angel (Pomacanthus paru)
Half Moon Angelfish (Pomacanthus maculosus)

Blennies

Goldentail Comb-tooth Blenny (Enchelyurus flavipes)
Striped Poison-Fang Blenny (Meiacanthus grammistes)
Green Canary Blenny (Meiacanthus tongaensis)
Disco Blenny (Meiacanthus smithi)
Canary Blenny (Meiacanthus oualanensis)
Mozambique Fangblenny (Meiacanthus mossambicus)
Bundoon Blenny (Meiacanthus bundoon)
Forktail Blenny (Meiacanthus atrodorsalis)
Blackline fangblenny (Meiacanthus nigrolineatus)

Boxfishes
Scrawled cowfish (Acanthostracion quadricornis)

Cardinalfish
Blue-eye Cardinal (Apogon compressus)
Blue-Streak Cardinal (Apogon leptacanthus )
Banggai Cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni)
Pajama Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia nematoptera)

Clownfish

False Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Clark's Clownfish (Amphiprion clarkii)
Tomato Clownfish (Amphiprion frenatus)
Gold-Stripe Maroon Clownfish (Premnas biaculeatus)
Cinnamon Clownfish (Amphiprion melanopus)
Fire Clownfish (Amphiprion ephippium)
Australian Clownfish (Amphiprion rubrocinctus)
Orange Skunk Clownfish (Amphiprion sandaracinos)
Pink Skunk Clownfish (Amphiprion periderion)
Saddleback Clownfish (Amphiprion polymnus)
True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)
Sebae Anemonefish (Amphiprion sebae)
Twoband Anemonefish (Amphiprion bicinctus)
White-tipped Anemonefish hybrid (Amphiprion sebae x Amphiprion polymnus)

Comets and Assessors

Yellow Assessor (Assessor flavissimus)
Blue Assessor (Assessor macnelli)
Marine Betta (Calloplesiops altivelis)

Dottybacks

Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Striped Dottyback (Pseudochromis sankeyi)
Sunrise Dottyback (Pseudochromis flavivertex)
Splendid Dottyback (Pseudochromis splendens)
Neon Dottyback (Pseudochromis aldabraensis)
Diadem Dottyback (Pseudochromis diadema)
Lyretail Dottyback (Pseudochromis steenei)
Golden Dottyback (Pseudochromis fuscus)
Blue-Striped Dottyback ([I]Pseudochromis springeri[/I)
Redhead Dottyback (Pseudochromis dilectus)

Dragonets
(Synchiropus splendidus)

Gobies

Yellow/blue Prawn Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
Pink-Speckled Shrimpgoby- (Cryptocentrus leptocephalus)
Yellow Watchman Goby- (Cryptocentrus cinctus)
Luthera's Watchman Goby- (Cryptocentrus lutheri)
Greenbanded Goby (Elacatinus multifasciatus )
Red-Headed Goby- Elacatinus puncticulatus)
Shortstripe Goby (Elacatinus chancei)
Neon Goby - (Gobiosoma oceanops)
Hybrid Cleaner Goby - (Gobiosoma oceanops x Gobiosoma randalli)
Yellowline Goby - (Gobiosoma randalli)
Goldline Goby - (Gobiosoma louisae)
Sharknose Goby- (Gobiosoma evelynae)


Grammas

Royal Gramma- (Gramma loreto)
Blackcap Basslet- (Gramma melacara)

Groupers
Blue hamlet (Hypoplectrus gemma)
Shy hamlet (Hypoplectrus guttavarius)
Butter hamlet (Hypoplectrus unicolor)
Belted sandfish (Serranus subligarius)

Jacks

Pilotfish (Gnathanodon speciosus)

Jawfish
Yellow-headed jawfish (Opistognathus aurifrons)
Banded jawfish (Opistognathus macrognathus)

Puffers

Sharpnose puffer (Canthigaster rostrata)
Half-smooth golden puffer (Lagocephalus spadiceus)
Northern puffer (Sphoeroides maculatus)

Seahorses & Seadragons

Big-bellied seahorse (Hippocampus abdominalis)
Lined seahorse (Hippocampus erectus)
Long-snouted seahorse (Hippocampus guttulatus)
Thorny seahorse (Hippocampus histrix)
Common seahorse (Hippocampus kuda)
Longsnout seahorse (Hippocampus reidi)
Dwarf seahorse (Hippocampus zosterae)
Leafy seadragon (Phycodurus eques)
Common seadragon (Phyllopteryx taeniolatus)

Rabbitfish
White-spotted spinefoot (Siganus canaliculatus)

Snappers

Emporer snapper (Lutjanus sebae)

Wrasses
Multicolorfin wrasse (Halichoeres poecilopterus)
Hogfish (Lachnolaimus maximus)

Mobile Invertebrates

Red Waratah Anemone- (Actinia tenebrosa)
Moon Jellyfish (Aurelia aurita)
Aiptasia-eating Nudibranch (Berghia verrucicornis)
Upsidedown Jellyfish (Cassiopea frondosa)
Bubble-Tipped Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor)
Peppermint shrimp-(Lysmata wurdemanni)
Minature Carpet Anemone (Stichodactyla tapetum)
Queen Conch (Strombus gigas)
Coral banded shrimp (Stenopus hispidus)
Fighting Conch (Strombus alatus)
Assorted Snails

Ornamental Shrimps

Eastern harlequin shrimp (Hymenocera picta)
White-striped cleaner shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis)
Catalina cleaner shrimp (Lysmata californica)
Scarlet cleaner shrimp (Lysmata debelius)
Rathbun’s cleaner shrimp (Lysmata rathbunae)
Peppermint shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni)

Wholesalers

C-Quest:
Contact: Katy / Sales
email: cquest@prtc.net
phone: 787-845-2160
phone: 787-845-3909
fax: 787-845-3929

ORA:
www.orafarm.com
Contact: Vince Rado / Kelly Hunter
vrado@hboi.edu / kthunter@hboi.edu
phone: 561-468-7008
toll free: 888-317-3276
fax: 561-468-7353

Ocean Rider:
www.oceanrider.com
Contact: Carol Cozzi-Schmarr, President
info@oceanrider.com
phone: 808-329-6840
fax: 808-329-6841

Proaquatix:
www.proaquatix.com
Contact: Whit Hazelton
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Favorite Fish: : Blue Acaras...first fish I ever breed still have a soft spot for them

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Just wanted to say thanks for making the list of tanked raised specimens. Also for pointing out that many of your favorite fish are not tank raised specimens. And as far as collecting out of a tidal pool in CALIFORNIA not MD I have seen no fewer than 3 shows on "Travel" channel where people harvest tidal pools for cooking that nights dinner.

Just remeber it is easier to educate and get people to enjoy this hobby in a responsible manner than it is to get them to listen to anything after you just "yelled" at them on a forum.
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Posts : 1453
Location : Md
Favorite Fish: : Maroon clownfish,Tangs,bluespot jaw fish,Bangaii,Mandarins etc.......I love all fish really.

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Elrollo wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks for making the list of tanked raised specimens. Also for pointing out that many of your favorite fish are not tank raised specimens. And as far as collecting out of a tidal pool in CALIFORNIA not MD I have seen no fewer than 3 shows on "Travel" channel where people harvest tidal pools for cooking that nights dinner.

Just remeber it is easier to educate and get people to enjoy this hobby in a responsible manner than it is to get them to listen to anything after you just "yelled" at them on a forum.

look, I spend the 1st half of my life living in shake and bake, not Md and I'm not yelling at anyone just stating facts. actually I have many of them on the list, I think it was made very clear that its good to buy tank bred /raised whenever possible why is that so hard to understand? and no they don't dig out dinner from Tide pools in protected area's.
I believe there are a lot of good people here that want to learn, then there are some that don't and continue to be thick..
end of story...Bye... hope you have a great weekend:)
oh and your Welcome its a great list and getting bigger all the time...
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Demonkegman
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Location : Chino, Ca.
Favorite Fish: :
Salt water - Lion fish.
Fresh water - Arowana.
Food - Any type of Salmon sushi.

SALT WATER LOVER!!!! Fresh...... not so much...

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urchins are over populated btw, just to answer the question earlier.
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lol! ....^^^^^^ study ............. out ........ my most recent trip to the tide pools in so cal. 196631
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