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Miller09
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PostSubject: A little help is needed.   A little help is needed. - Page 2 Icon_minitime10/6/2009, 5:58 pm

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Ok so here is my problem. I have a 55 gallon salt water tank ( newport ) same as jebo tanks ( made by jebo) with hood and built in filters. I find my self having nothing but problems with it. I started out with a 24 gallon aquapod and had a little trouble when i 1st started it up. but once i had added a canister filter all my problems went away. now i own a 55 gallon, canister filter, 2 X 55watt 50/50 pc lighting. also have a sunsun vibration pump. I also have i would say about 60/70 lbs of live rock, 3/4 inch of live sand, but i am always having a algae with a little bit of ride slime. but all my chems are showing right on, taken water to the LFS and had it tested, same as my testing. i only have 6 small fish, a few hermit crabs and a star fish. so i have been thinking it is time to down size to smaller tank since i do not have that many fish and was still a newbi when i got the 55 gallon. didnt know much about lighting or anything else. but i am still a newbi at this and would like some help from everyone about the two tanks i am looking at. or some help to get this tank to where i would love to be at. i would love to be able to put corals and sps . one of my problems is i dont have alot of room in a small condo. so i have been looking at two smaller set up's. can you please help me with pro's and cons of these tanks.
1st one is a Red Sea Max Complete Coral Reef Systems ( http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_tanks_red_sea_max_complete-ap.html) and the other is a JBJ 28 Gallon Nano Cube HQI Aquarium ( http://www.marinedepot.com/JBJ_28_Gallon_Nano_Cube_HQI_Aquarium_with_FREE_Stand_(MTS_60)_Tank_with_Stand-JBJ_Lighting-JB7235-FIAQNCTS-vi.html ). so any help would be very greatfull as i know bigger is always much better but not for me right now. thank you veryone

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ok so i got 5 new fish for my tank today. i got 3 green chroms, 2 blue tangs. as you can you see my two clowns took to the greem chroms right away and started swimming with them off and off.
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Miller09 wrote:
ok so i got 5 new fish for my tank today. i got 3 green chroms, 2 blue tangs. as you can you see my two clowns took to the greem chroms right away and started swimming with them off and off.

ok first off how big is your tank? if your tank is not at least 200 gallons i would advise getting rid of one of the regals (blue tangs). blue tangs get very large. i would personally not keep more than one regal in a tank of undr 150 gallons also you may have issues in the futer as they reach maturity with them fighting, if you see them and they look like they are making passes next to each other adn cocking their tail to one side (away from other tang) then they may be using their tang on the other fish. the tang on them is not always clearly visible but it is razor sharp and could seriously injure the other tang. now with that said some people have had luck with more than one but most people that i know personally do not keep more than 1 of each species of tangs (I.E. 1 regal, one desjardini, etc.) a general rule of thumb is to not have tangs of similar size, body shape, or color in the same tank as you would be more apt to have issues with agression between them. if you do plan on keeping them both just make sure you keep an eye on them and at the first sign of trouble remove one of them. it is better for the fish.
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Miller09 wrote:
Also I do not have a skimmer on the tank. just canister filter, built in filter/ power head ( just cermic rings in it ) power head at the bottom of tank, built in hood lighting, i will have to take a picture of the top of the tank and get some feed back because i do want to put a skimmer on it but not too sure how to do it just yet.

ok as to your skimmer question. there are some hang on back units that are designed to fit under a wood canopy that might work i belive you might look into like a red sea prizm, a seclone, or a cpr back pack, IMHO the best bang fo rthe buck is a coralife super skimmer because it can be used hang on or in sump but even the smallest ss 65 rated for 65 gallons has issues under canopies and when using the glass tops. my advise would be to pick up a T5 HO light fixture and not use the glass tops if possible, with some species of fish (like certain gobies and wrasses)that are jumpersand you will have to use a top of some kind to help you in case they decide to jump out of the tank.


here is a pic of my tank to give you an idea of what i mean, i am running NO glass top at all and my super skimmer 220 and light fixture fit very well.

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the only problem with running a setup like this is that there is more evaporation (as you know you should NEVER use aerasols near your tank.
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lordraptor1 wrote:
a skimmer is nice for pulling out organic wastes.

I use that waste on my wifes house plants along with a little water(4'rubber plant).
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nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
a skimmer is nice for pulling out organic wastes.

I use that waste on my wifes house plants along with a little water(4'rubber plant).

does that make a good fertilizer? if so i might be able to convince the roomy why it is good to spend money on my tank LOL
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lordraptor1 wrote:
nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
a skimmer is nice for pulling out organic wastes.

I use that waste on my wifes house plants along with a little water(4'rubber plant).

does that make a good fertilizer? if so i might be able to convince the roomy why it is good to spend money on my tank LOL

My stepdad told me about it years ago. I use a CPR bak-pak R. Once the waste cup is
full of that slimmy green poop , I mix it with 2 cups of water and put it on my wife rubber plants.
They grow rapid, very nice and leaves don't wither at all. These are the only plants we have so
I can't speak on any other plants.
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nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
a skimmer is nice for pulling out organic wastes.

I use that waste on my wifes house plants along with a little water(4'rubber plant).

does that make a good fertilizer? if so i might be able to convince the roomy why it is good to spend money on my tank LOL

My stepdad told me about it years ago. I use a CPR bak-pak R. Once the waste cup is
full of that slimmy green poop , I mix it with 2 cups of water and put it on my wife rubber plants.
They grow rapid, very nice and leaves don't wither at all. These are the only plants we have so
I can't speak on any other plants.

might be worth a try LOL
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lordraptor1 wrote:
nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
nitty wrote:
lordraptor1 wrote:
a skimmer is nice for pulling out organic wastes.

I use that waste on my wifes house plants along with a little water(4'rubber plant).

does that make a good fertilizer? if so i might be able to convince the roomy why it is good to spend money on my tank LOL

My stepdad told me about it years ago. I use a CPR bak-pak R. Once the waste cup is
full of that slimmy green poop , I mix it with 2 cups of water and put it on my wife rubber plants.
They grow rapid, very nice and leaves don't wither at all. These are the only plants we have so
I can't speak on any other plants.

might be worth a try LOL

LMK how it turns out for you.
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i agree with raptor, you do not have the room for 1 tang let alone 2 i wouldnt house a blue/regal tang in anything less than 75 and that cutting it close for just one. skimmers are very good at removing organic wastes from your tank, very true, and they work great. I do not have a skimmer on my 50 gal and i have an open top with an emperor400 and a penguin on it with two pwrheads in the tank so I do alot of water changes and top offs so my organic waste doesnt get to build up a lot with my set up/feeding schedule and i do not have a lot of fish to create waste either. your 55 is a great size for coral though, basically what you need as bare basics is water movement, LR and light, your sand bed is a little shallow though you want to beef that up to around 2-4 inches, mine is about 3.
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one of these days those tangs will start fighting for space and one will end up getting killed also whichever one does survive will end up outgrowing it so just be prepared for it because it IS and WILL happen. if you plan on keeping them i would get a larger and soon my regal went from 3" to 6" in 6 months or less which would make it to big for your nano.
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I just bought a 2nd hand marineland eclipse12 gallon, self contained tank, the guy I bought it from said it was for salt water, but when looking at petsmart today I saw a new one in the box and it didn't say anything of the kind, which is okay, but if I can do saltwater with it on the cheap I will, if not it will be okay with freshwater, anything I can get as far as info is appreciated
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alot of prople do use those as salt. but really any tank could be use for fw or sw.

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So, the little filter system and circulation is enough to run salt? I don't really want to have to add anything to whatever I do. I bought this tank because I had "just the spot for it" and I can only use so much space
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Reef, fish only, fish only with live rock?
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