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 Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?

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PostSubject: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 9:55 am

I need to treat Ich in my tank, and since it spreads so easily I am going to treat the main tank. I raised the temp to about 83 but I wanted to know what medication works best and if there are any that would not kill off the beneficial bacteria. I have african cichlids, and a pleco if this impacts the treatment. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 10:41 am

What kind of cichlids and what kind of pleco?
The size of tank would be good to know too.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 11:14 am

I have african cichlids (mainly mbuna) and a common pleco in a 75 gal tank. I am trying to determine which medication I should buy to treat Ich most effectively without harming the beneficial bacteria. I am not interested in doing salt treatments that I hav about because I have heard they can hurt the pleco. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 12:17 pm

I have used a product called Quick Cure (malachite green and formalin) for ick for years without noticing significant damage to the beneficial bacteria......You must follow the instructions fully and half dose if you are worried about a particular type of fish......................Not good for invertebrates in the tank.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 12:42 pm

I, too, have used half dose of Quick Cure with no ill effects on the bacteria. It also tends to not stain the silicone seams very much at that dose. Honestly, I've never gotten any more effective cure or shorter time frame from the full dose so I only use half dose any more regardless of what fish I've got. As dano said, however, it is not good for any inverts. Oh, and they aren't kidding when they say pull the carbon from your filter.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 5:48 pm

I use it at half dose as well, just as good as full dose.

You do know that common plecos get up to a few feet long?
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 6:48 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 9:49 pm

You want a non-medicated treatment?

Raise temperature and use aquarium salt.

http://thegab.org/Illness-and-Treatment/treating-ich-with-salt.html


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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/7/2010, 11:59 pm

X2 on what the Evil Jojo said (Khrister)
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 2:25 am

You can always try a copper dip also medicine never really enters your tank..might stress the fish out if it is the very progressed stage of the disease. This is where you use a small backet/tank treat it with copper and simple net you fish dip them in the bucket set them back in the tank. We used to treat salt water fish in invert tanks this way.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 8:40 am

khrister wrote:
You want a non-medicated treatment?

Raise temperature and use aquarium salt.

http://thegab.org/Illness-and-Treatment/treating-ich-with-salt.html


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No meds! Heat n salt usafishbox

You can't kill ich ....you can only speed up the process.

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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 11:26 am

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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 12:52 pm

Will raising the temp to 86 degrees without adding salt still work? I don't want to add salt because of the pleco, I've read that it can harm them. I did read that temp works because it keeps the Ich from being able to reproduce. I was thinking of just raising the temp for 10 days and trying not to add anything. What do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 1:58 pm

I've always used Quick Cure to treat ich and never had a problem, works quick and dont harm anything on the tank...
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 3:51 pm

The salt won't hurt your pleco if kept at normal doses. Raise the temp and add the salt. Khrister raises plecos and wouldn't recommend anything that would harm them.
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PostSubject: Re: Is there an Ich Treatment that won't kill the beneficial bacteria?   11/8/2010, 4:30 pm

Ok so what is the best dosage regimen for salt addition. I read 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons in an article. Does this sound right? How long do I keep the salt in the water? For the 10 days of the raised temp?
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