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 Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.)

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Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 1 EBJD

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Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 1 0809090906-1

Size - 8 inches
pH - 7.0
Temp. - 75 degrees Fahrenheit
Minimum Tank Size - 55 Gallons
Origin - Guatemala, Honduras, Yucatan
Diet - Frozen and Pelleted food including bloodworms, brine shrimp, and cichlid pellets
Care Level - Intermediate
Temperament - Moderately Aggressive

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey is a variant of the common Jack Dempsey, part of the cichlid family of fish. It gets is name from the brilliant coloration that it presents as it enters adulthood. Many have speculated as to whether this fish is a hybrid fish formed from another fish breeding or whether it comes from a naturally occurring gene that would be produced in nature. Both sides have good arguments. However, I tend to lean towards the gene for two reasons. One, because it can be reproduced by breeding an Electric Blue with an Electric Blue Gene carrier, and two, because it carries all of the same rituals and habits of the normal Jack Dempsey and because of it's color, would not be found in nature because it would stick out like a sore thumb to both the parent who would cull the different looking ones and to a predator who finds the colorful and weaker ones easier meals.

The Electric Blue Jack Dempsey has a milder manner than the normal Jack Dempsey. However, don't let that fool you from thinking it will not still hold up to it's name. They still can hold their own. EBJD's, as some people abbreviate, are not easy to breed because the Blue fry are very weak and susceptible to diseases, especially early on in their life. Much care must be taken when young to ensure their survival and health. It is also difficult because in order to produce blue fry you must first cross a normal Jack Dempsey with an EBJD and then breed the fry, who are Blue Gene carriers, back with an EBJD to produce Electric Blue fry. Two EBJD's bred together will produce extremely weak fry who will die once hatched in a very short time. To ensure a stronger strain, it is suggested that you breed the first batch of Blue Gene carrier fry with an EBJD other than the parent to prevent inbreeding problems.

With all of that being said, I have found this to be one of, if not, my favorite fish to keep in the hobby because of it's brilliant colors and rarity. Please do note that if you plan on keeping one, I've found that it is best to keep your EBJD with the opposite sex normal Jack Dempsey or with another Electric Blue of the same size to keep them from hiding all the time. Mine was very shy until I introduced her to a mate. Now she roams the whole tank most of the day and is much more active. Enjoy!
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usually expensive fish at the LFS
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Nice
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I've bought two for $35 a piece. Other stores I've seen sell them for $30. Problem is, you are buying them as smaller fry, maybe 2 inches, so at 35 bucks, you have to be very careful as they are susceptible to disease. Especially if you only have a 48 hour warranty!
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snowflake311 wrote:
ricardorocks wrote:
heres a pic of mine i bought two of them pretty expensive
[img]Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 1 Electr17[/img]

yours has nice color but he has the beak face. How big is he in that pic?

mine was $20. Well worth it he was 2" when I bought him now he is 3.5".
i paid 35 when he was 2 inches now he is 4 inches in the old pic he was 3 inches hes colors are bad @$$ just keep getting better idk if its a male or female yet
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yea if you can breed these - its easy money in your pocket
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Read the section about breeding I posted in the library entry. They are tough because you have to breed a MALE EBJD with a normal strain twice (two seperate pairs). Then you have to breed the baby females from one batch with the opposite male EBJD to get viable EBJD fry (Prevents inbreeding). Once I get moved into a house I own, this will be the fish that I breed.
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I may try a breeding project, nothing like a good challenge!
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seems like a lot of work but very nice result i love mine Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 1 265353
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Electric Blue Jack Dempsey Cichlid (Cichlasoma octofasciatum var.) - Page 1 Ebjd10 this is an update on my electric blues they are starting to do alot of lip locking what does it mean they are like 4 inches each dont know the sex
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means they are prob gonna do it and make more babies!
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you think so it would be nice ,you dont think they are to young and i dont know their sex too will see can any one tell by looking at them fish
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Vent them. Pick em up and look at the asshole. The hole below it is the breeding tube. Males = V (pointy), Females = U (blunt)
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ebjd are one of my favorite fw fish. let me know if your succesful at breeding them ricardo
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Yeah me too ricardo
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Sorry guys and girls but they are worth $3.50 on the wholesale markrt now. The price is dropping fast. Six months ago they were $5.00.
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thanks guys i will let you know if im luck as far as fishman tell me where i paid 35 for each one of mine so let me know ill buy a bunch are they eblds cuz i know regular ones hit that price range all day thanks for the vent lesson ill check it out i just thought they were to young
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then lfs are jacking up the prices of these still.
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then lfs are jacking up the prices of these still.
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my lfs sells them for 25 i think
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I'm a wholesaler. I have my mark up and then the stores. FYI blue damsels saltwater cost me 25cents. What do they cost at your local store?
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private how much do you sell ebjd for
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EBJD's for $3.50? That's crazy because every one that I've seen here is at least $25-$30. Now I know there is mark-up, but that's 1000 percent. I could understand them being worth $10-$20 dollars and being marked to $25-$35 dollars. Maybe you missed the decimal?
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CSnyder00 wrote:
EBJD's for $3.50? That's crazy because every one that I've seen here is at least $25-$30. Now I know there is mark-up, but that's 1000 percent. I could understand them being worth $10-$20 dollars and being marked to $25-$35 dollars. Maybe you missed the decimal?
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No earlier in 09 they were $15.00 my cost. Like all new fish prices fall. Do rememmber the Precox Rainbow. Dwarf neon rainbow. My cost was $125.00. Overnite they dropped to $7.50. Yuor EBJD have been around long enough for the price to fall. The Albino Birchardi was the same way. I expect the EBJD to bottom out around $2.00. Now thats my cost. Yes the mark up on live fish a lot. Sorry that you the consumer pays the price. Its always been alot. Theres airfreight losses and profit envoled.
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Yeah I know there is huge mark-up but I didn't figure on the prices dropping. Can we get them discounted from you? I want some nice young males if I can get them.
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same here ill buy like 5 from you at that price
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