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PostSubject: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 8:37 pm

at the moment im only doing a 'FOWLR'. i have been dealing with a moderate case of ich and need a little advise.
125 gallon temp. set at 84
Day 1: a 20% WC and dosed with kortons rid-ich
Day 2: another 20% WC and dosed again with rid-ich
Day 3 (today): another 20% and again i dosed with rid-ich
Results: After losing a yellow tang and a couple damsels all other fish seem to be doing ok. all are eating well and are active but im still noticing a little scratching of the rocks.
Tomorrow: Should I do another WC then dose again or should i just do a WC and keep the temp at 84 for a couple more days?
instructions state to dose for 3 days. directions state to those for three days. any advise is greatly appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 9:12 pm

well the ich most likely came from the tang as they are prone to get ich, my advise would be to set up a qt tank with high temp, low salinity and put the fish in it and treat with cupramine (copper). i have seen a few that will put copper in a tank with corals but some livestock does not do well with copper (some corals and inverts). i would also advise the use of a uv sterilizer (use a low flow rate through the sterilizer for best results at killing the ich, a waterchange might also be a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 9:40 pm

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Do you have any cleaner shrimp?
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 9:58 pm

the tang is dead...... i think i have it under control now. My ? was that all my other fish have started eating well again and have regained strength. im still noticing some scratching against the rocks tho.

so should i do another 20% WC then dose again or should i stop the dose and do a water change and keep the temp. at 84 for a couple more days.

As for cleaner shrimp... i cant cause i have a lunar wrasse and an eightline wrasse that will most likely eat em.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 10:23 pm

bpseoe wrote:
the tang is dead...... i think i have it under control now. My ? was that all my other fish have started eating well again and have regained strength. im still noticing some scratching against the rocks tho.

so should i do another 20% WC then dose again or should i stop the dose and do a water change and keep the temp. at 84 for a couple more days.

As for cleaner shrimp... i cant cause i have a lunar wrasse and an eightline wrasse that will most likely eat em.

get a skunk cleaner shrimp if you can have one in your tank they will help, also it is cool to watch the fish swim up next to it an open their gills and let the shrimp clean on them, a skunk cleaner will also get on your hand and clean it if you stick it in the tank lol!
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 10:25 pm

Water change will NOT get rid of ich. You have to speed up it's cycle. Aquarium salt and raising your temp will help speed up the process. Ich is always there and will never actually go away it's all about how well you maintain it. Temps above 80 and aquarium salt once a month is how I help maintain it.

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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 10:33 pm

KMX wrote:
Water change will NOT get rid of ich. You have to speed up it's cycle. Aquarium salt and raising your temp will help speed up the process. Ich is always there and will never actually go away it's all about how well you maintain it. Temps above 80 and aquarium salt once a month is how I help maintain it.

doing a waterchange in the tank is more to try and remove ich in the substrate not that in the water column, but high temp low salinity, while running a slow flo rate through a uv sterilizer is best for ich in the water column. a skunk cleaner will take care of ich and parasites on fish and live rock.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 10:34 pm

Ich is on the side of the tank and then releases it self into the water and then trys to attach itself to the fish... Water changes do not help getting rid of ich,

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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/4/2009, 10:41 pm

KMX wrote:
Ich is on the side of the tank and then releases it self into the water and then trys to attach itself to the fish... Water changes do not help getting rid of ich,


if a fish is rubbing on rocks, glass and substrate then some of the ich will end up in teh substrate and on the rocks. waterchanges are a precaution, but should NOT BE DONE IF USING MEDICATIONS.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/27/2009, 7:39 pm

I have a yellow tail blue tang he aways gets ich. he'll get it for any thing putting your hand in the tank water changes. you can fully see it on him too big white bloches! but I have 2 skunk cleaners and they work great. he never gets too sick and he just hangs out with the shrimp all the time matter of fact he sleeps by them. but yeah your bummed you can't have shrimp with an 8 line. I have a Mystery wrasse and he eat all my peppermints. but my skunks are way bigger than it so it pretty much leaves them alone. like I said they are the tangs buddies so he shoos the Mystery way.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime11/28/2009, 7:33 am

John C. wrote:
I have a yellow tail blue tang he aways gets ich. he'll get it for any thing putting your hand in the tank water changes. you can fully see it on him too big white bloches! but I have 2 skunk cleaners and they work great. he never gets too sick and he just hangs out with the shrimp all the time matter of fact he sleeps by them. but yeah your bummed you can't have shrimp with an 8 line. I have a Mystery wrasse and he eat all my peppermints. but my skunks are way bigger than it so it pretty much leaves them alone. like I said they are the tangs buddies so he shoos the Mystery way.

tangs and angels are prone to getting ich, however i was lucky my regal got it when i brought him home and once he was in my tank it went away and he has never showed another sign and my flame angel hasnever got it. anyway high temp low salinity and if it gets to bad put it in a QT tank with high temp, low salinity and treat with cupramine
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime1/29/2010, 10:22 pm

If you have any type of invertebrate in your tank you should not use any copper compounds.......Copper will bind with the calcium in the substrate and live rock and is very difficult to remove.........Be sure to check your pH and ammonia levels....Irritation from low pH or any ammonia in the water will cause the fish to scratch (flash) just like they had parasites....It will also weaken the fish making them susceptible to diseases....There is a product called Stop Parasite that uses pepper to kill ich and other parasites that is safe with invertebrates.
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PostSubject: Re: treating ich   treating ich Icon_minitime1/29/2010, 11:50 pm

ok i raised the temp to 83.5 trying the garlic thing. the fish didnt have a single dot on them, and now tonight they have some more
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