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koolaid68
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PostSubject: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 8:32 pm

For some reason the few fry that I have left in the main tank with the mom & dad (about 30) are 3 times larger then any of the fry that are in the 30 long by themselves. I am feeding them enough, but I just don't understand how that can be. I am going crazy over it.
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Dr. Who
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 8:39 pm

Do more H2O changes on your fry tank. Fish release chemical to stop others from growing. More fish in a smaller area is your problem.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 9:27 pm

Ok Thanks Dr.Who I will try it. I did fail to mention that the larger fry are in a 180 gal. tank. all of the fry are 8 days old. The fry that are in the 30 long do have plenty of room. I was wondering was the mother giving the other fry that are 3 times larger something that the rest are not getting.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 10:39 pm

yeah! i noticed that too.

i thought it was just competition and food ratio.

i had 12 krib fry, sold 9. a month later i went to the store and look at my old fish. i realized my 3 were nearly double in size compared to the 9 at the fish store
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 10:40 pm

the chemical theory is fascinating to consider tho. cite primary source to sate my curiousity
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/24/2012, 11:45 pm

I noticed the same thing with my Angelfish. The ones kept with the parents grew much faster and bigger then the ones I took out and put in there own grow out tank.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/25/2012, 1:14 pm

Thanks Kasshan and Whisper. I thought about taking the rest of the babies and the mom and putting them all into the 30 long but changed my mind. And I also thought about trying to get all of the babies and placing them back in with their mom in the 180 and figured that wouldnt work either. so i will just leave things as they are and chalk it up to a learning experience.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/25/2012, 1:45 pm

my best understanding is that the fry that stay with the parents are perhaps better fed.

but i really think its just a population/competition/volume/food ratio rather than just being with the parents as opposed to being put in a species only tank. because the parents of my fry died last year. but you wont know for sure until someone sets up a controlled experiment.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/26/2012, 1:08 am

I think you are right about that. And I think you are the man for the controlled experiment. Let me know how the results turn out. I'll trust ya......
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/26/2012, 1:19 am

haha i dont have the space yet! maybe in a few years. right now i live with my folks and im getting married in June, so i gotta step up.

and last December one of my 40g tanks burst in the house, so im considering it lucky they let me keep my main 40g. i moved it into the garage as a precaution.

ive been wanting to do controlled experiments and have a dedicated fish room all to myself someday......
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/27/2012, 11:13 am

yea that happen to me too it's strang
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koolaid68
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/27/2012, 9:59 pm

Well Kasshan Congrats on getting ready to be married. Sorry to hear about the 40 gallon breaking, I know how it is I had a 110 bust on me twice. It wasnt until after I got rid of it that I figured out what I was doing wrong to cause it to leak. Its spilt milk, but now that I have my 180 and everything i am getting over it.

Once ya finish getting married, and get your own spot. Let the other half know that you are gonna have a man cave/fish room. Then you will be able to do all the controlled experiments you want. Just remember to post us the info so we can learn a few things.

I am going to try and free up some space on my camera and take a pic or two, and maybe a video so that you can see the difference in the fry growth.
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/28/2012, 2:23 am

ye definately, my dream job is doing something in the field of agricultural entomology, but the hobbies, true passion is fish of course and then second is insect collectiing.

gotta work my bum off for the next few years and maybe then i can hv some amazing setups like some of the guys here. koolaid im already jealous of your 180! lol
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PostSubject: Re: I don't understand   I don't understand Icon_minitime4/28/2012, 8:24 pm

Here are a few pics, of the 2 week fry. gonna see if i can post a video or two also.
Pic of fry in the 30 gallon tank, by themselves.
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Pic of fry in the 180 with mom (Texas Cichlid) and dad (Flower Horn)
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