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PostSubject: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 11:13 am

im picking up a 75 gallon reef ready tank with a 20g tank im gonna use for a sump, what is a good return pump to use for this ?
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 12:07 pm

You need to make sure your return is stronger then the intake. Magnetic drive pumps. Put a valve on the return end so you can control the flow for the overflows.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 1:57 pm

thanks man ,
from what ive read either a mag 7 or 9 i also read a 9 would be to much.couldn i just put a ball valve to reduce the flow if too much?
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 3:33 pm

yes a mag 5 or 7. or a rio 1800-2500 (rio or not the best but or not to expensive).
yes you could always put a ball valve on it, or put a vice grip clamp on the line. it would restrict some of the flow that way.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 3:36 pm

Ditch whatever either of those two just said, and head to Reef Central where there are calculators that help you determine what size return pump you actually need.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 3:53 pm

popebosephus wrote:
Ditch whatever either of those two just said, and head to Reef Central where there are calculators that help you determine what size return pump you actually need.

WOW wouldn't the not so rude way of responding be "or head to Reef Central........" Idea ?
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 5:02 pm

I guess, but he didn't give enough information to answer the question. There are more factors in matching returns to drains than... I have a 75 gallon tank with a 20 gallon sump. Also no one should ever use a rio pump for anything. Ever.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 5:23 pm

James can be a *** at times , like he said there are many factor to consider when getting a return pump. Yes rios are known to cause fire issuses. What do you plan to keep and grow in there.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 5:53 pm

wow thanks for the info peeps, as far as what im keeping right now the basic rock and a few damsels and clowns

ill post the pipe diameter tomorrow when i pick it up , but i think it was 1" . from the sump to top of tank is roughy50"

sorry for any mispelling my keyboard is about to go out ill try to catch it as much as possible
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 7:10 pm

it's cool dude, this forum is here to help people...
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 7:14 pm

are the rio"s that bad?
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 9:28 pm

Russ722 wrote:
are the rio"s that bad?

the old ones where known to have problems, but i've never had a problem with the rio's i have. but all i've used mine for are mixing water.
if I remember right a company bought rio, and now rio is known as seio. I've also had good luck with the company rainbow and there pumps known as quiet ones.
aquaeon is also starting to make some nice return pumps, and power heads. I use there power heads in my tanks and i can't tell the difference between them and hydor korillas in performance and the aquaeons are cheaper too.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/18/2012, 10:11 pm

ty very much ill check them out , and the calculator
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 7:58 am

come on people its not rocket science! measure your overflow and the head and go from there! a Mag 7 will be fine... as for Reef Central those people are nothing but a$$$ holes that enjoy belittling others and the Mods well they aren't even human!!!!! Reef Central SUCKS!!!!! ANYONE THATS BEEN AROUND AWHILE KNOWS IT..........................................
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:07 am

cwhip wrote:
come on people its not rocket science! measure your overflow and the head and go from there! a Mag 7 will be fine... as for Reef Central those people are nothing but a$$$ holes that enjoy belittling others and the Mods well they aren't even human!!!!! Reef Central SUCKS!!!!! ANYONE THATS BEEN AROUND AWHILE KNOWS IT..........................................

hey thanks ,when measuring the overflow do i go by outside or inside diameter of the pipe?
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:30 am

measure the actual hole.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:32 am

cwhip wrote:
measure the actual hole.

got it just wanted to make sure. thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:42 am

cwhip wrote:
come on people its not rocket science! measure your overflow and the head and go from there! a Mag 7 will be fine... as for Reef Central those people are nothing but a$$$ holes that enjoy belittling others and the Mods well they aren't even human!!!!! Reef Central SUCKS!!!!! ANYONE THATS BEEN AROUND AWHILE KNOWS IT..........................................

I said hit the calculators, not the forum. ;)
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:48 am

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cwhip wrote:
measure the actual hole.

got it just wanted to make sure. thanks.

no problems:) post pics when you get the tank.
pope these calculators are all over just google it! lol where do you think Jerk Central got it:)
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:49 am

Oh BTW youre lil 58 is looking SWEEEEEET!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:49 am

google seems over-complicated.


Thanks, really starting to dig the SPS. OMG... I'll post a pic here in a minute from a month ago you'll laugh your backside off at my infestation.
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:51 am

popebosephus wrote:
google seems over-complicated.

you are such a funny Man!!!!! lol!
google google google return pump question 196631
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 8:56 am

popebosephus wrote:
google seems over-complicated.


Thanks, really starting to dig the SPS. OMG... I'll post a pic here in a minute from a month ago you'll laugh your backside off at my infestation.

I'll be looking for the pics! I've sold most of my SPS'S off and rescaped the entire 180 I got bored so I'm planning something new:) the ponies are doing awesome but I need to setup a nursery tank for the fry but time has been an issue the last few months:(
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 12:58 pm

if it were me i would stay away from rio pumps ive had nothing but problems with them they have a tedency to stop out of no were. they also have problems with overheating witch cause them to get shorts and electicute the entire tank causing wipe outs. after getting shocked by over fifty of these pumps i dont trust them. but they did switch hands and they may b better pumps now. i would go with ether a mag drive , lifegaurd pump, or my personal favorite ehiem pump any of these pumps should work great
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PostSubject: Re: return pump question   return pump question Icon_minitime1/19/2012, 3:47 pm

yea i was reading that last night about the rios think ill look into others t be on the safe side. thanks.

i received the tank today and measured the holes they are 1" i was toying around with a sump idea and drew this up quick let me know please any changes i need to make , sorry im not a artist with paint and a laptop mousepad :) thought all of this out with out anything to go by out in the garage so go easy on me :)

from left to right :
didnt add in the thickness of the baffles but u get the idea.

return area 9"
baffle 8"with 1/2 gap at bottom
baffle 8" spaced 1" away
refuge area 10"
baffle 8" with 1/2 gap at bottom
baffle 8" spaced 1" away
skimmer/heater area 9"

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pic of tank- got some cleaning to do :[img]return pump question P01-1913[/img]
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